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jimmy the one

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24. anecdotal evidence from gunnuts, a sure fire fail here
Mon Apr 14, 2014, 01:22 PM
Apr 2014

lurkso: ..1 the most important part of the article in which the county and state police are refusing to enforce the law. .. 2 the relevant point of the article still applies which is that the county and state police are refusing to enforce the law.

And what do you base your general non sequitur on? gunnut anecdotal evidence:

anecdotes from Nojay: “The rank and file troopers don’t want anything to do with it,” Assemblyman Bill Nojay (R).. “I don’t know of a single sheriff upstate who is going to enforce it.” .. Nojay said estimates of military-style rifles in private ownership in NY range -- up to 1 million. He predicted compliance with registration would be in the 10% range .. He said the SAFE Act provisions on registration will be ignored the same way the 55 mph Interstate speed limit and Prohibition was {sic} ignored..“I know a few hundred of these (gun owners),” Nojay added. “I don’t know of any of them that are going to be registered, so go figure.”

Wow, lurkso, accd'g to nojay you're right. Nojay doesn't know of any gun owners who are going to register their assault rifles or superclips, so there must be full non compliance, wow, a stupendous failure in the process, per nojay.

In Schoharie County, a rural area.., county legislators passed a resolution to keep the county’s official seal off any websites or publications about the SAFE Act. The county notified state officials that no money would be allocated for local enforcement

scoharie co: Pop: 32,099 (2012) Would fit in a sq mile or two of NY City.

County legislatures in Rensselaer and Niagara counties have also passed resolutions about non-use of their official seals in SAFE Act materials. In Erie Co, retired state trooper Howard’s declaration “I won’t enforce it” was credited with electing him to a third term..

Who credited his safe act opposition to his 3rd election? my bet it was gunnuts. But at least rensselaer & Niagara counties account for 400,000, so, so far we're about at 450,000 of NY's 20 million people, approx. 2% of New York. Erie county would up it to ~10% but that's for full non compliance.

A Schoharie official is organizing a protest on Jan. 11, he asks everyone with a gun in the county to show their opposition to SAFE Act by firing off one round in a safe manner.

He then went back to belching Budweiser & playing grand theft auto video game.

Gun rights groups say State Police refusal to release statistics on gun registrations suggests that the new law is being ignored.
State Police said the FOIL requests for the records will not be granted because registration information is part of a confidential database exempt from disclosure.


But when have facts ever gotten in the way of gunnut propagunda?



Non-compliance & the NY SAFE Act [View all] Lurks Often Apr 2014 OP
This is what happens when they push through useless laws. ileus Apr 2014 #1
Law abiding citizens . . . nt flamin lib Apr 2014 #2
Prohibition was once the law too, as was Jim Crow. Straw Man Apr 2014 #5
Yeah, and it was law so people who were caught paid the price. You up for that? nt flamin lib Apr 2014 #10
What makes you think I intend to break the law? Straw Man Apr 2014 #12
yay drug war! yay segregation! yay corporate bailouts! Nuclear Unicorn Apr 2014 #7
I see you missed the most important part of the article Lurks Often Apr 2014 #8
And you think those charged with enforcing the law flamin lib Apr 2014 #11
LEOs practice discretion all the time ... Straw Man Apr 2014 #13
I other threads about may/shall issue come down to flamin lib Apr 2014 #14
Apples and oranges: making law vs. enforcing it. Straw Man Apr 2014 #15
May issue IS due process if that is the the local law. nt flamin lib Apr 2014 #17
No, it is NOT. Straw Man Apr 2014 #20
Even Scaia says states can pass laws governing guns. flamin lib Apr 2014 #21
Except the Peruta case that flowed from Heller says otherwise hack89 Apr 2014 #22
So in your estimation there is no such thing as an unconstitutional law? Straw Man Apr 2014 #23
I do when those laws are wrong and arguably unconstitutional Lurks Often Apr 2014 #16
That's fine if you are willing to pay the price extracted by law. flamin lib Apr 2014 #18
This is about law enforcement Lurks Often Apr 2014 #19
That article is four months old BigAlanMac Apr 2014 #3
The deadline for registration is 4/15/14. Straw Man Apr 2014 #6
I believe the relevant point of the article still applies Lurks Often Apr 2014 #9
anecdotal evidence from gunnuts, a sure fire fail here jimmy the one Apr 2014 #24
Lack of enforcement breeds lack of respect... Eleanors38 Apr 2014 #4
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