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Gun Control & RKBA

Logical

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15. Here you go, I was wrong, it was 190,000 in 2012.......

Reply to melm00se (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:01 PM

Nov 2014

You might want to self delete your post.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/17/atf-firearms-lost-stolen/2432447/

ATF report: 190,000 firearms lost or stolen in 2012

WASHINGTON — Slightly more than 190,000 firearms were reported lost or stolen across the country last year, according to a new report by the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco Firearms and Explosives.

The audit, ordered by the Obama administration in the aftermath of the December Connecticut school massacre, is the first such public accounting by the ATF.

The overwhelming majority —183,660 — were stolen guns. That number is up from 145,300 firearms reported stolen in 2010, according to a separate 2012 review by the Bureau of Justice Statics' National Crime Victims Survey.

However, the Bureau of Justice Statistics' survey found that firearm thefts, like overall thefts, have been declining for much of the past decade.

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The FBI violence stats for 2013 are out. [View all] benEzra Nov 2014 OP

It's not just homicides; all crimes are down. Jackpine Radical Nov 2014 #1

Good point about total crime being down! benEzra Nov 2014 #2

a real contributing reason for drop in crime jimmy the one Nov 2014 #3

Your post shows that gun ownership has kioa Nov 2014 #5

repeat jimmy the one Nov 2014 #7

No, gun ownership has been steady since the mid-1990s, while murders decreased 50%. benEzra Nov 2014 #9

BJS & gallup jimmy the one Nov 2014 #17

bjs murder rates stats jimmy the one Nov 2014 #18

Guns per capita vs murder rate. kioa Nov 2014 #19

california apples, florida oranges jimmy the one Nov 2014 #20

Hardly. Both my & your examples show zero correlation between guns per capita & murder rates. kioa Nov 2014 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #22

We weren't supposed to notice that TX has more guns per capita and less murder than CA friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #23

buy a new deck of cards jimmy the one Nov 2014 #24

You are now contradicting what you've been claiming in the other thread friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #25

"I have a sneaking suspicion you're not playing with a full deck of cards. " blueridge3210 Nov 2014 #26

et tu jimmy the one Dec 2014 #27

Um, yeah. blueridge3210 Dec 2014 #28

Oh, really? Did a bunch of guns just disappear? Did they magically vaporize? NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #12

'Tragic canoeing accidents'. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #16

How odd, crime is down while firearms sales reached all time highs Lurks Often Nov 2014 #4

such dishonesty jimmy the one Nov 2014 #6

"You are well aware of what I've just posted"-and it's just as true now than it was then friendly_iconoclast Nov 2014 #8

I am struck by decline in handgun homicides. Eleanors38 Nov 2014 #10

50,000 stolen guns a year are more than enough to supply all the criminals with guns..... Logical Nov 2014 #11

a claim of 50,000/year melm00se Nov 2014 #13

What? That is only guns stolen from FFL holders. Not home burglarys, etc. Not sure..... Logical Nov 2014 #14

Here you go, I was wrong, it was 190,000 in 2012....... Logical Nov 2014 #15