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intaglio

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18. The text with which we are both most familiar is the Bible
Thu Nov 28, 2013, 04:44 PM
Nov 2013

and, although CSA is not given overt approval, there is a body of teachings and parables that allow marriage to any woman "of child bearing age" i.e. when they commence their menses. There are also examples where God gives permission for the forced marriage of soldiers with their prisoners of whatever age, the approval of the use of prisoners as sexual slaves. Add in the teaching that a rapist can avoid punishment for their rape by marrying the victim whatever that victim's age. Then consider the sickening tale of Lot and his daughters and the approval for incest that that gives.

Now you say, rightly, that there are cases of modern authority figures committing CSA but that is not the object of this post, the object, which I state again, is the discussion of child abuse of whatever type by members of non-Christian faiths. This abuse can be given a cachet of approval by religious leaders due to the direct teachings in holy text or by the customary accretions to that faith. If approval is not given then it seems to be concealed by such faiths and sects to avoid the opprobrium that such revelations cause.

Your continued attempt to derail this into a different discussion indicates either blindness as to the stated purpose of this thread or a deliberate attempt to avoid criticism of the faithful by moving into a more general discussion of CSA. Remember also that the statement "... but everyone does it!" does not excuse such acts and, given the claims to moral superiority made by all faiths, completely negates that claimed superiority.

not limited to religious leaders.. pipoman Nov 2013 #1
This post is specifically about one area of the child abuse problem intaglio Nov 2013 #3
In each of the cases I cited pipoman Nov 2013 #8
Please check my post #7 on response to rug intaglio Nov 2013 #10
Also a problem especially for those who are convinced skepticscott Nov 2013 #12
The difference is skepticscott Nov 2013 #6
As stated above.. pipoman Nov 2013 #9
Which does not address my point skepticscott Nov 2013 #11
This is true. rug Nov 2013 #2
Check my reply #3 n/t intaglio Nov 2013 #4
Ok. rug Nov 2013 #5
In this case it is the reinforcement of trust intaglio Nov 2013 #7
+1. It will be interesting to see what kind of a response you get, if at all. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #15
Or maybe I'll just make some indirect commoents about you to another poster. rug Nov 2013 #16
Turkey is fitting. cleanhippie Nov 2013 #21
The case that religious scripture approves child sexual abuse is quite weak. rug Nov 2013 #17
The text with which we are both most familiar is the Bible intaglio Nov 2013 #18
There's no derailment at all. You received a direct response, rug Nov 2013 #19
I have deliberately avoided saying something "unique and peculiar" intaglio Nov 2013 #20
You have, however, implied that there is something about religion that makes it worse than elsewhere rug Nov 2013 #22
No, I have said that those who claim moral superiority intaglio Nov 2013 #24
Do I understand you to say that the incidence of CSA is the same in religions as it outside? rug Nov 2013 #25
I made no claims about incidence or frequency compared to other groups intaglio Nov 2013 #30
I get you. rug Nov 2013 #33
Police seem to do better when their actions are constantly recorded. We ought to adapt that system dimbear Nov 2013 #31
Did you ever hear of a sting tape? rug Nov 2013 #32
I see the value of that, but it's one sided. The constant surveillance works both ways, it dimbear Nov 2013 #34
And yet it's still a HUUUUUGE christian problem. Iggo Nov 2013 #13
I think it is because there is more publicity about the Christian side of things intaglio Nov 2013 #14
Here's how it boils down. Religious folks trust their leaders too much, don't keep tabs on them, dimbear Nov 2013 #23
And why do they trust their leaders too much? skepticscott Nov 2013 #26
No doubt about it. dimbear Nov 2013 #29
No, it's not. Sexual predators, especially the ones who prey on children, Warpy Nov 2013 #27
sorry to say every religion does this DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #28
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