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Peaceful Protester

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48. Your original comment appears to merely be a statement about divine forgiveness

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:23 PM

Dec 2017

Last edited Sat Dec 9, 2017, 03:20 PM - Edit history (1)

Your original comment simply stated how you think divine forgiveness is messed up.

The reason I chose to respond to your comment is because I can relate. I suppose I've had similar feelings about divine forgiveness much of my life, and I'm not sure why. But, recently I've begun to experience things much differently, and I'm not exactly sure why. I'm not exactly sure why my feelings have changed.

I think it has something to do with a change in my thinking that shifted my perspective. I think I used to assume that I must always be looking out for myself. Like the saying, "look out for number one". Always acting in my own self interest; in a manner primarily advantageous only to myself; always being on the alert to never let anyone take advantage of me.

Then one day I had an epiphany that shifted my perspective. It was an epiphany about the Golden Rule; treating others the way I would like to be treated. I don't think I had actually ever truly understand what it meant. I guess before my epiphany, I never really believed in the Golden Rule. Anyway have a good day.
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I have been criticized for calling Christianity a shortcut religion. [View all] MineralMan Dec 2017 OP

Their biggest schism came over this issue. trotsky Dec 2017 #1

Yes, so it did. Good old constipated Martin Luther. MineralMan Dec 2017 #2

I think a lot of you MineralMan, but when it comes to my belief I think the phrase is TexasProgresive Dec 2017 #3

Umm... trotsky Dec 2017 #10

I don't think that was the intent, really. MineralMan Dec 2017 #16

Well sometimes the hard sell is convincing them they are awful and in need of saving. trotsky Dec 2017 #20

It's pretty easy, really. We're all liable to do selfish things that harm others. MineralMan Dec 2017 #21

It's a deep hole saidsimplesimon Dec 2017 #51

i can answer this one, having asked it myself. unblock Dec 2017 #4

Well, if that's the case, there sure are a lot of people who MineralMan Dec 2017 #5

sorry i was sloppy to say "if you believe you can't live a life of sin" unblock Dec 2017 #6

I don't think there's any scriptural support MineralMan Dec 2017 #7

not clear on your point. unblock Dec 2017 #12

Yes, you are expected to, but if you fail, you're still covered, MineralMan Dec 2017 #22

So deathbed confessions don't work? Lordquinton Dec 2017 #8

They even have a Sacrament for it Cartoonist Dec 2017 #9

You're dieing anyways Lordquinton Dec 2017 #40

genuine, sincere deathbed confessions work unblock Dec 2017 #13

I've been told that everyone confesses on their deathbed Lordquinton Dec 2017 #39

yeah, and atheists are magnetically repelled from foxholes. unblock Dec 2017 #41

Simple truths of the universe Lordquinton Dec 2017 #42

some christian religions require good works Angry Dragon Dec 2017 #11

Some do. MineralMan Dec 2017 #14

Faith, Repentance, and Action Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #15

If that's the case, there are far fewer actual Christians than people who believe MineralMan Dec 2017 #17

It's been claimed that much of current Xianity is Igel Dec 2017 #29

The concept of divine forgiveness is fucked up, when you really think about it. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #18

Yup. Acts of contrition should be made to the person you harmed, MineralMan Dec 2017 #19

MineralMan Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #25

Character Is Forged on the Anvil of Adversity Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #24

Forgiveness isn't the issue. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #28

Can you explain? Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #30

Is it right for the perpetrator to be receiving forgiveness Mariana Dec 2017 #31

Love and Forgiveness Are Gifts You Pay Forward Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #33

Profound. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #35

Your original comment appears to merely be a statement about divine forgiveness Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #48

The golden rule is irrelevant. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #54

Simple Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #59

Again, that is not what I'm talking about. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2017 #60

This is an interesting question. Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #62

That is the problem when one insists on a very simplistic framing of a faith. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #23

Atheism is not a belief. MineralMan Dec 2017 #26

Of course you believe it to be so. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #27

A simplistic framing Cartoonist Dec 2017 #50

Why do you think a belief without evidence marylandblue Dec 2017 #32

Good question. trotsky Dec 2017 #34

What is the evidence for atheism? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #36

We've looked for God for tbousands of years abd have not found him marylandblue Dec 2017 #37

Have you literally looked? I mean really looked? guillaumeb Dec 2017 #38

I can tell you what would convince just about every atheist Mariana Dec 2017 #43

So you need physical proof. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #44

I'm just like the people Jesus walked among 2000 years ago. Mariana Dec 2017 #45

True, and some still disputed His claims. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #46

But many believed who wouldn't have otherwise. Mariana Dec 2017 #47

True. We are in agreement on this point. eom guillaumeb Dec 2017 #49

Everybody has a bar of proof marylandblue Dec 2017 #56

Some need physical proof. guillaumeb Dec 2017 #57

Proof, physical or not, is something objective marylandblue Dec 2017 #58

I usually post to political threads Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #52

Religion inspires so many people's behavior, for good or for bad. Mariana Dec 2017 #53

True Peaceful Protester Dec 2017 #55

I'll tell you how you ended up here True Dough Dec 2017 #61