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Judi Lynn

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2. Scientists establish freaky two-way communications with lucid dreamers
Mon Feb 22, 2021, 05:09 AM
Feb 2021

By Loz Blain
February 18, 2021



One of the researchers watching brain signals from a sleeping participant in the lab. Researchers are working to expand and refine two-way communications with sleeping people so more complex conversations may one day be possible.
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Four independent experiments across the globe have found that it's possible to establish two-way communications with people in the weird, hallucinatory state of lucid dreaming, opening up a new field of real-time "interactive dreaming" research.

This is a big deal for scientists trying to work out what the heck is going on as we sleep, because typically they've had to rely on the fragmented, fading scraps of memory people have once they've woken up. "Our experimental goal is akin to finding a way to talk with an astronaut who is on another world," reads the introduction of a combined study between four separate groups in France, Germany, the Netherlands and the USA.

Each group set out to test its own techniques on how to "interview" people without waking them up, using the bizarre phenomenon of lucid dreaming as a doorway into the dream world. During regular dreams, we typically have no idea that we're dreaming, simply accepting the strange situations we're placed in without critical judgement. Lucid dreaming, a "notoriously rare phenomenon," is a state where the sleeper is aware that they're dreaming, and sometimes capable of steering their experience.

The researchers took one group of experienced lucid dreamers, another of regular folk that they had trained in the art of lucid dreaming, and one patient with narcolepsy who frequently drifted in and out of lucid dream states – and found they were able to have two-way exchanges with members of all three groups.

In all the tests, the scientists verified that each subject was in a state of REM sleep, using "standard polysomnographic methods." Facial and eye movements were chosen as the means by which the dreamers could "talk back" to the researchers from the dream world, and the subjects were trained in specific ways of communicating. Some, for example, were trained to move their eyes left to right three times (LRLRLR) in response to an audio cue if they wanted to communicate that they were in the lucid dream state. None were trained with the specific questions they'd be asked when they were asleep.

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"When you poop in your dreams..." PSPS Feb 2021 #1
Scientists establish freaky two-way communications with lucid dreamers Judi Lynn Feb 2021 #2
I understand this in theory, and I've had lucid dreams, however pnwmom Feb 2021 #3
Absolutely! AwakeAtLast Feb 2021 #6
Ooh, reminds me of Star Trek Next Generation episode Night Terrors. tanyev Feb 2021 #4
last act officaly as captain i hearby order you to bed . good nite data. AllaN01Bear Feb 2021 #25
To me, the idea of directing or interfering with my dreams Harker Feb 2021 #5
I agree. Duppers Feb 2021 #8
Oddly enough... Harker Feb 2021 #11
Wow! Duppers Feb 2021 #13
I agree with Harker, and I think Oldem Feb 2021 #22
Yep. OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #28
It's the fact that we forge ahead when we don't fully understand Oldem Feb 2021 #29
Science has no use for human society OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #30
I'm pretty sure Stephen LaBerge was doing stuff like this 35 years ago. LudwigPastorius Feb 2021 #7
This is nothing new. My wife has been able to do it for years 40RatRod Feb 2021 #9
Is your name Fred? twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #18
Ok, now that made me lol skydive forever Feb 2021 #24
Cool DENVERPOPS Feb 2021 #33
Interesting burrowowl Feb 2021 #10
My sister used to sleep-walk. myccrider Feb 2021 #12
If I could solve math problems while sleeping Wicked Blue Feb 2021 #14
Saw that in a DiCaprio movie once... paleotn Feb 2021 #15
The sound of a cat or dog throwing up twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #16
Ever had a night terror? twodogsbarking Feb 2021 #17
Get out of my dreams..and into my car.. LakeArenal Feb 2021 #19
I've been in many meetings where I swear this was being done. RainCaster Feb 2021 #20
"I wasn't talking to you!" Response from the talking in their sleep next to me when... JustFiveMoreMinutes Feb 2021 #21
Fascinating! I have often experienced an in-between state between dreaming and being awake. Martin68 Feb 2021 #23
Shoot, teachers have been doing this for a long time.... getagrip_already Feb 2021 #26
hmmm ShepKat Feb 2021 #27
So, they can maybe communicate with the average Republican voter? cstanleytech Feb 2021 #31
I sleepwalk a lot ... TomVilmer Feb 2021 #32
Great, sounds like another way for our employers to keep us on the job petronius Feb 2021 #34
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