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2016 Postmortem

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Admiral Loinpresser

(3,859 posts)
27. I have a different take.
Wed Feb 10, 2016, 04:54 PM
Feb 2016

McGovern's campaign was centrally identified with his opposition to the Viet Nam war in my recollection and I believe that is the main reason he got the nomination. But his campaign was a disaster after he secured the nomination. It started with giving his acceptance speech at 2am and within a day or two his campaign was in free fall because he nominated Tom Eagleton for VP, said he was behind him "1,000 per cent," then within a day replaced him with Sargeant Shriver. He received no support from the Democratic establishment as I recall.

By contrast, Bernie has come out of nowhere, with no money and no name recognition and is on the verge of seizing the lead in this primary race. The social conditions in 1972 were very different than now, and particularly the economic conditions were much, much better in terms of minimum wage and upward social mobility. So there was not the sense of economic anger, which is so widespread now.

Also, I did not have a sense of McGovern being a transformative figure. Bernie fits that profile to me, in the same way as FDR and Reagan and, to some extent, LBJ. That's what Bernie represents to me--historic change in the direction of America and the fulfillment of the promise of the New Deal (i.e. a New Deal for everybody).

The system is rigged [View all] Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2016 #1
just another thing to do during the revolution SoLeftIAmRight Feb 2016 #2
K&R nt Live and Learn Feb 2016 #3
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Feb 2016 #4
A popular choice like McGovern -- who lost 49 states. A lot of good he did. nt pnwmom Feb 2016 #5
Yes, what a fair election, running against mdbl Feb 2016 #8
Well, there is Mondale, Carter (2nd), and Dukakis. Hoyt Feb 2016 #10
I guess there's just no room for decent politicians then mdbl Feb 2016 #12
I believe the most apt analogy is Reagan or FDR. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #13
Well, FDR was a rich man who was not particularly progressive when taking office. Hoyt Feb 2016 #15
Actually he ran on a progressive record Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #17
I do believe the McGovern analogy is inapt. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #11
I think you might be missing an important point tech3149 Feb 2016 #16
Excellent point. n/t Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #18
McGovern was an effective campaigner in the PRIMARIES. It was the general where pnwmom Feb 2016 #20
I have a different take. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #27
To Adm Loinpresser and pnwmom Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #28
See post 28 ^^^ Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #29
The most nonsensical part is that they're allowed to come out and openly Chakab Feb 2016 #6
And I've seen them hopeful that turnout will be low. Wilms Feb 2016 #9
The Superdelegates will switch if Bernie keeps winning Onlooker Feb 2016 #7
That's right. Admiral Loinpresser Feb 2016 #14
I fear that sanity only prevailed in Obama's case farleftlib Feb 2016 #21
K&R We live in the most reality shareholders will allow. nt raouldukelives Feb 2016 #19
Is the term "Democratic" party false advertising? Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2016 #22
That thought began ocurring to me during the Clinton Administration Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #24
..+1 840high Feb 2016 #26
Just ignore the Super Delegates! The Corrupt Corporate Owned MSM is using them to PROP UP CLINTON! in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #23
Superdelgates need to be watched carefully starting now Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #25
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