2016 Postmortem

leftynyc

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6. My pleasure to kick and rec

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 05:17 AM

Mar 2016

this post. Under the bus is rapidly running out of room. I just saw Steve Kornacki break down the votes by looking at all the states voting last night - Bernie won white men, Hillary won everything else - white women, black men and women, Latino men and women. Pretty stark numbers. Don't worry, msanthnrope, you're in excellent company.

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Stop 3/5ing the vote of the AA community. [View all] msanthrope Mar 2016 OP

K&R! stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #1

KnR Hekate Mar 2016 #2

Rec JustAnotherGen Mar 2016 #3

And who has benefitted from the past 8 months of nonstop insults thrown at Sanders supporters? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #4

Downthread, the point was made that Sanders won the white male msanthrope Mar 2016 #9

Yeah, that's what I thought. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #11

Honestly, Warren, this thread is about something serious....a deliberate msanthrope Mar 2016 #13

Come on, tell me how my opinion doesn't matter because I'm a, you know.. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #16

You're still pissed at me for that? Jesus, Warren....nt. msanthrope Mar 2016 #18

Nah, I don't stay pissed. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #19

You know what's interesting to me, Warren.....your personalization msanthrope Mar 2016 #21

I merely asked a question, which was who exactly benefits from the shit what has been flung at Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #25

HRC will get her millenials. First and formost, her campaign is smart enough to msanthrope Mar 2016 #27

"her" Millennials. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #30

Poor dears.The demographic I am talking about worry about getting msanthrope Mar 2016 #33

The people shooting African Americans are the people guarding the gated communities of the Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #39

Indeed. So, then Gwen Carr is what? Not seeing how HRC is responsible msanthrope Mar 2016 #58

deflect, insult, and try and make the conversation into something it isnt. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #79

Sorry Warren, but black lives are more important in this campaign msanthrope Mar 2016 #89

+1 fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #108

You insult them, "how is this helping?"- that's your question. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #186

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #135

Welcome to DU. MIRT!!!!! Cleanup in aisle three!!!!! nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #136

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #137

I'm white, and you say "bitch" like it's a bad thing. I welcome your hatred. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #138

How do people get banned these days? auntpurl Mar 2016 #142

You can alert on a post, but MIRT, a committee of troll zappers, keeps a pretty tight rein msanthrope Mar 2016 #144

Cool, thanks for info nt auntpurl Mar 2016 #145

Good lord. auntpurl Mar 2016 #139

He's dead, Jim. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #141

They may, on a daily basis, worry about getting raped and whathehell Mar 2016 #202

Hillary's only chance of getting a significant number of millennials if she wins the nomination is.. nikto Mar 2016 #34

Um. No. Either Castro or Warren will draw the millenials. msanthrope Mar 2016 #35

That's a sad indictment of millennials, isn't it? onenote Mar 2016 #46

"HRC didn't need millenials primary votes" so she ignored them azurnoir Mar 2016 #166

No....she allocated her resources to people who would show up to the primary. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #169

hmmm Bernie won by 20+ points in my state so millenials here must have shown up azurnoir Mar 2016 #172

Hillary getting the Millennials is not guaranteed nikto Mar 2016 #203

No words could be uttered, typed, or written by me or anyone else here... cherokeeprogressive Mar 2016 #72

"Other than that... please fucking stop lecturing me. It ain't fucking workin'." JTFrog Mar 2016 #76

Indeed. One wonders what would, actually, work. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #124

I agree with that. John Poet Mar 2016 #146

Warren, I'm sure you've seen the OPs yardwork Mar 2016 #36

+1 n/t JTFrog Mar 2016 #70

Of course not. But I didnt bring up "white males" Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #83

As a Hillary supporter I'm here to tell you that there's been a lot of mean stuff thrown our way too yardwork Mar 2016 #101

And likewise. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #188

Oh look, black people and white people are throwing shit at each other on the Internet again. Jester Messiah Mar 2016 #90

Actually, we're not. This white person is proud to stand with people of color. yardwork Mar 2016 #105

This white person is proud and happy of her OP. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #185

The Clinton campaign has been treating Sanders with kid gloves Gothmog Mar 2016 #177

that wasn't my question, was it. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #187

Your post 4 referenced eight months poor treatment of Sanders supporters Gothmog Mar 2016 #191

people made the same argument about Obama, in '08. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #192

But for Sanders, the attack ads write themselves Gothmog Mar 2016 #194

I think we do better when we inspire people and are perceived as actually standing for something Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #196

I have the template for a button similar to your vote for theme Gothmog Mar 2016 #205

Anyone who has to live there has my sincerest sympathy. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #206

"nonstop insults thrown at Sanders supporters'? anigbrowl Mar 2016 #207

Only one side has tried frantically to make "the supporters" & associated memes an actual issue Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #208

KNR Lucinda Mar 2016 #5

My pleasure to kick and rec leftynyc Mar 2016 #6

Very well put. Nt NCTraveler Mar 2016 #7

Especially puzzling since she's winning every demo Starry Messenger Mar 2016 #8

The Republicans need depressed Democratic turnout to win the GE and keep msanthrope Mar 2016 #10

Well thank God hillary is doing such a bang up job with Millennials, right? Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #12

Warren, step back a second. The downballot....the Senate msanthrope Mar 2016 #14

I know she's gonna be our nominee, in all likelihood. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #17

She's doing great with young black and Hispanic Millennials YCHDT Mar 2016 #100

Some have even suggested that we 'discount' or 'ignore' lovemydog Mar 2016 #15

+1. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #143

Yes, 3/5th has been institutionalized BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #20

I think this post should be it's own OP..... msanthrope Mar 2016 #24

I wish I had time BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #32

Great post. nt sufrommich Mar 2016 #40

Excellent post. nt auntpurl Mar 2016 #80

Dr. Frantz Fanon, M.D. wrote about that very subject. Octafish Mar 2016 #87

Had his books in my household growing up BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #95

War Hero. Psychiatrist. Anti-Colonialist. Revolutionary. Octafish Mar 2016 #97

"Wretched of the Earth" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #98

Outstanding analysis. More than relevant, it is basic for human progress. Octafish Mar 2016 #106

Institutionalized; hook line and sinker. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #147

^ This is an outstanding explanation lovemydog Mar 2016 #160

K&R betsuni Mar 2016 #22

There have been other black people who have said the same thing. nc4bo Mar 2016 #23

Do you belive Bernie Sanders directly insulted black voters in the South? That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #26

What are you referring to? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #28

I wouldn't say directly 72DejaVu Mar 2016 #31

Yes, and the tone deafness of "Killer Mike" speaks volumes. He is a rare known and is being YCHDT Mar 2016 #104

The quick reply of the person in the audience about the average donation being $27? That Guy 888 Mar 2016 #130

K&R liberal N proud Mar 2016 #29

Indeed, it's appalling treestar Mar 2016 #37

I keep seeing 2 kinds of posts appear to predominate among Hillary supporters. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #38

Why do folks continue to insist that it is "Hillary supporters" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #45

I could break the internet pulling up posts on DU complaining that rural and lower class whites Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #53

The difference is BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #59

I think you've made an assumption. msanthrope Mar 2016 #47

Whatever. You blast Sanders supporters without the slightest hint of discretion then Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #51

I am surprised you have taken my OP so personally. Why? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #54

Whatever. Call people racist one minute, want to know why they don't want Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #57

I called no one a racist. But are you denying that the terms "Stockholm Syndrome" or msanthrope Mar 2016 #61

You're not calling anyone a racist, you're just claiming they're being racist. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #65

ok....what about "Confederacy." nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #69

What about the fact you're looking for any excuse to call people racists? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #75

Pointing out the use of racist terminolgy and talking points BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #81

Maybe you're just mad the parrots have been trained to repeat "super predators." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #110

There's no being "mad" at anything BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #112

"'Parrots' repeat what they hear and are often rewarded for the 'repeating'." Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #113

Yet you miss the point of the analogy BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #115

Racist crap should be denounced but it's not racist crap you're denouncing. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #118

Ahh there it is... BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #129

I think you illustrate the problem in your post...... msanthrope Mar 2016 #92

What racism have I failed to address? Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #109

You really don't think using "Stockholm Syndrome" to describe Black voting choices isn't problematic msanthrope Mar 2016 #116

"Stockholm Syndrome" has no racial connatation. You're fabricating that out of wholecloth. Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #117

Again....do you really think suggesting that Black people have a psychological problem msanthrope Mar 2016 #119

I will not address something with no context. Care to address "super predators?" Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #200

Yes it does. Tons of it and boatloads. Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #128

I don't identify as straight. Thanks. mt msanthrope Mar 2016 #133

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #148

Back for another round? How sweet. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #149

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #150

I'll tell you what I've told the other 2 -- Nuclear Unicorn Mar 2016 #201

Excellent response nikto Mar 2016 #204

I have struggled to understand RunInCircles Mar 2016 #41

And here we have an example of BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #50

Yep My bad! RunInCircles Mar 2016 #52

And once again BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #62

Well...he gave you three choices! What are you complaining about? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #73

Which is it? RunInCircles Mar 2016 #74

You still don't get BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #77

Yes auntpurl Mar 2016 #82

This is it exactly BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #93

K&R. Enough of minimizing black voters! NT Adrahil Mar 2016 #42

What a stupid original post. Okay, give us a round number.... Herman4747 Mar 2016 #43

One can start with BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #55

And just how is this denigrating specifically black VOTERS? n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #60

Really? BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #63

For real? You don't see how that OP would be offensive to Black people? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #64

It would be offensive to ALL the voters who elected the President Herman4747 Mar 2016 #67

Ok....but we are talking about Black people. So let's stick to them. Can you msanthrope Mar 2016 #71

Given that our President is half-white, Herman4747 Mar 2016 #122

Because Black voters is my OP subject. And you aren't answering my question. Why? nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #123

Do you answer mine? n/t Herman4747 Mar 2016 #151

Yes. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #152

NO, YOU DON'T! Herman4747 Mar 2016 #154

You were given an answer. My OP also detailed several other threads. And of course, you've msanthrope Mar 2016 #156

I WANTED A PERCENTAGE, WHICH YOU FAILED TO PROVIDE. Herman4747 Mar 2016 #158

Ok then....nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #164

"Given that our President is half-white" BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #134

Guy, Don't be giving me Plessy v. Ferguson nonsense. Herman4747 Mar 2016 #153

"Plessy v. Ferguson has been repudiated by the U.S. Supreme Court." BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #180

Just wanted to insert here that I think your posts are great. auntpurl Mar 2016 #197

I bow down to others here on DU BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #198

Yes it will. auntpurl Mar 2016 #199

I suggest DU-searching the term "low information voters" auntpurl Mar 2016 #84

A 'round number'? Don't be ridiculous. randome Mar 2016 #88

K AND R! JaneyVee Mar 2016 #44

K/r. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #48

It is the same petulant mentality that is not getting what it wants. AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #49

+1. VulgarPoet Mar 2016 #161

Posted to for later. eom. 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2016 #56

k&r bigtree Mar 2016 #66

Excellent post. NurseJackie Mar 2016 #68

Cosigning and could not agree more! consciouslocs Mar 2016 #78

Actually, when blacks are this denigrated and trashed, as voters, they just get more determined. Jitter65 Mar 2016 #85

Nails it. BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #99

Pow! nt Quayblue Mar 2016 #111

Here's one for ya how many more times will the South see Hillary before the convention? azurnoir Mar 2016 #140

"ya know all those churches she was singing hallelujah with?" msanthrope Mar 2016 #163

really or you just avoided my question - I'll take that as what you can't say azurnoir Mar 2016 #165

I think your implication that Black voters were somehow hoodwinked by a candidate who will msanthrope Mar 2016 #167

Blacks being hoodwinked is your apparent projection I said the South and churches azurnoir Mar 2016 #170

This is a thread about the Black vote. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #171

well you seemed okay when threw millennials into the thread azurnoir Mar 2016 #173

Oh....I thought it rather proved my point. On a thread about the Black vote, it msanthrope Mar 2016 #174

the only demographic in Texas that is - in my state he won across the board at least according to azurnoir Mar 2016 #176

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2016 #175

Hey, I try to point this out and get ignored Blue_Tires Mar 2016 #86

Well said! mcar Mar 2016 #91

K&R fleur-de-lisa Mar 2016 #94

You don't have to apologize BumRushDaShow Mar 2016 #103

Great post -- k & r obamanut2012 Mar 2016 #96

Great strawman. Octafish Mar 2016 #102

I don't answer your questions. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #120

I can see why. Octafish Mar 2016 #125

K&R ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #107

Never mind the 1/4ing, of course. Orsino Mar 2016 #114

K&R Gothmog Mar 2016 #121

You know, I'm personally bothered that the infamous Stockholm post is constantly mentioned sans Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #126

I identify as Bi. Been a long journey. But thanks for asking. msanthrope Mar 2016 #131

People must take that care when suffering the bitterness of a loss Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #127

FACT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2016 #132

Which is why McConnell's stupidity on the SCOTUS vacancy is so stupid Gothmog Mar 2016 #178

Wow silenttigersong Mar 2016 #155

Yes. The opinion of one Black person does not negate the postings on this board. They are there, msanthrope Mar 2016 #157

Nina Turner silenttigersong Mar 2016 #159

Well said! Spazito Mar 2016 #162

are we back to race because Hillary is pandering for NRA $$$ so gunz are off the table for now? azurnoir Mar 2016 #168

"Back to race?" nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #184

seemes last week or week before it was all guns azurnoir Mar 2016 #189

The fact that a former First Lady of Arkansas does better in Dixie than a Jewish civil right leader Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #179

I thank you for providing an example of what I was saying in my OP. nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #181

Why do you hold African American voters and not white voters responsible for the vote in the South? Attorney in Texas Mar 2016 #182

Again, Thanks for your views on the "Confederacy." nt msanthrope Mar 2016 #183

I feel free to criticize the vote of ANYONE I think is voting for a bad candidate. Lizzie Poppet Mar 2016 #190

If anyone is specifically denigrating the worth of even a single Democratic vote RiverNoord Mar 2016 #193

I don't buy your premise AgingAmerican Mar 2016 #195