2016 Postmortem

monicaangela

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251. I've heard this before...

Sun Mar 6, 2016, 06:31 PM

Mar 2016

what are you using for comparison? What will she do that will be better than republicans. She will nominate better judges for the Supreme Court? She will advocate for PP, she will uphold equal rights? What exactly will she do? And, if she does all of these things and still caters to the Oligarchs how will that help our planet? How will that bring jobs to this nation? How will that fix the infrastructure in this country? How will that improve healthcare in this nation? How will it stop predatory loans, how will it provide education for our children. How will it stop climate change? How?

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DU is making me sad. [View all] One of the 99 Mar 2016 OP

They are both great candidates katmondoo Mar 2016 #1

Forgive me for taking a side here. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #6

I respectfully disagree... insta8er Mar 2016 #254

Hillary is a Skrull now? Chitown Kev Mar 2016 #273

nice jcgoldie Mar 2016 #2

Much of the nastiness is BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #3

Yeah, it was ugly here in '08 deutsey Mar 2016 #10

Too true! eom BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #14

IDK, I remember it being REALLY ugly in 08. It's just the nature of primaries. Svafa Mar 2016 #25

Yeah, that's why I distance myself from DU during primaries deutsey Mar 2016 #33

Exactly. I haven't been posting here much for the pst few weeks. 2008 was brutal, especially Arkansas Granny Mar 2016 #108

Hillary is a corporate opportunist. Is that a great candidate? Gregorian Mar 2016 #4

Never said she was. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #11

I've heard this before... monicaangela Mar 2016 #251

Hillary was one of the most liberal Senators redstateblues Mar 2016 #252

If she had stayed on longer randr Mar 2016 #302

what do you call someone? timmymoff Mar 2016 #319

As far as judges to the Supreme court One of the 99 Mar 2016 #264

I don't think she would appoint an person monicaangela Mar 2016 #267

Her husband appointed Ruth Bader Ginsburg One of the 99 Mar 2016 #268

I think Ruth Bader Ginsburg was an excellent appointment monicaangela Mar 2016 #274

But do you have any evidence to support your accusation? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #276

I believe that is a stretch monicaangela Mar 2016 #286

OK then we agree One of the 99 Mar 2016 #290

Agree. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #20

I find it the height of irony that YOU are telling US Le Taz Hot Mar 2016 #5

I completely agree. auntpurl Mar 2016 #7

If the site did that, it would fold in a week. artislife Mar 2016 #19

Me, too. It reminds me of 1968 and all the savage hatred for Hubert Humphrey. The Result? Nixon Glorfindel Mar 2016 #8

I've been thinking the same. yardwork Mar 2016 #15

But we got them in 1988, 2000 and 2004 without the progressive candidate artislife Mar 2016 #27

It's too late and too incremental after the extremists. yardwork Mar 2016 #41

With h we will still be going to the right. nt artislife Mar 2016 #91

If you think Hillary is just as bad as Trump, I don't know what to say to you. yardwork Mar 2016 #92

Then don't. nt artislife Mar 2016 #93

I know what to say dlwickham Mar 2016 #257

Sure you can say it here. zappaman Mar 2016 #31

I like that. Fucking nitwits! yardwork Mar 2016 #42

Who said you had to vote for Trump if you weren't voting HRC? Kittycat Mar 2016 #181

I didn't say that at all. I was responding to another poster. zappaman Mar 2016 #187

Why it's like .0001 of the vote? JRLeft Mar 2016 #9

Here We Go Again . . . Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #12

My apologies One of the 99 Mar 2016 #16

Lesser of two evils thing again. Never again for me. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #23

The lesser of two evils is Trump or Cruz One of the 99 Mar 2016 #30

No. The choice is death by thousand paper cuts from Hillary. Or a bullet to the head under Trump. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #35

Well I guess you missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #38

So did you. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #64

No I got it. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #70

f you had remotely gotten it you would not be framing Bernie in your response to my statement. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #75

Framing Bernie? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #78

Lol...whoosh right over your head. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #80

I did One of the 99 Mar 2016 #86

Lol...whatever you say. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #98

And you should consider One of the 99 Mar 2016 #101

"ideological" That must be your new word for the day. Good for you! Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #102

Look it up One of the 99 Mar 2016 #103

Still trying, that's so nice. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #107

Farther than someone One of the 99 Mar 2016 #116

Eventually you will get your blinders ripped off Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #121

Weak comeback One of the 99 Mar 2016 #128

Still trying? Lol Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #132

Don't need to try. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #139

Then you wouldnt be responding. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #151

Neither would you. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #153

See #151 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #155

And you keep responding. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #159

See #151 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #160

Saw it. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #161

See #151 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #162

You're just proving One of the 99 Mar 2016 #163

See #151 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #195

Considering you can't bring yourself to admit Sanders and Clinton aren't mythology Mar 2016 #193

See #151 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #194

Repeating the same drivel over and over One of the 99 Mar 2016 #198

Still trying? See 151 Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #199

Don't need to try. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #201

Lol your just wanting to keep this pathetic post kicked. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #211

You're the one that keeps kicking it One of the 99 Mar 2016 #212

That 75 is yuuugee timmymoff Mar 2016 #320

Nonsense. /nt yardwork Mar 2016 #44

Remember you said that when the effects of TPP become apparent. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #66

At least my wife and I won't have been deported. yardwork Mar 2016 #89

Gee that will be a help. Considering what TPP will do the the Job market. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #99

What do you really think will happen to our economy if Trump is elected? yardwork Mar 2016 #111

I have a very good idea. My first degree was in Financial Economics. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #115

I also have a background in economics - so what are the results of a trade war? CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #136

What are the results of the various wars Hillary will get us into? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #137

You deflected and didn't answer the question. CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #146

LOL...My point is under Hillary we know what will happen. US will undergo a Fire Sale. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #154

Okay, I understand - you don't know flip about economics CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #157

LOL...take a remedial reading class. Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #158

I read what you wrote - but I am having trouble believing you CajunBlazer Mar 2016 #165

May I suggest a Critical Thinking course too? Katashi_itto Mar 2016 #167

Same! I am not doing the lesser of 2 evils ever again. EVER! pinebox Mar 2016 #221

Trump and Cruz are the lesser of two evils One of the 99 Mar 2016 #241

The hostility towards Hillary ... dchill Mar 2016 #67

True. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #76

It's not you... dchill Mar 2016 #84

Important things are at stake... Orsino Mar 2016 #13

Wow! You really missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #18

OP may need some editing, then. Orsino Mar 2016 #29

Sadness is due to the nastiness and ugliness One of the 99 Mar 2016 #36

People are people. Orsino Mar 2016 #39

Doesn't make it right. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #46

One More Thing I Need to Say for Clarity . . . Gamecock Lefty Mar 2016 #17

Sorry. This election is a turning point for many of us. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #21

Another person who missed the point One of the 99 Mar 2016 #26

I've received your message loud and clear for a very long time thank you very much. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #43

Still missing the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #48

No I'm not. You are. And HRC supporters clearly are. stillwaiting Mar 2016 #49

So it is all about you One of the 99 Mar 2016 #53

Some Bernie supporters have been quite clear and open about where we are stillwaiting Mar 2016 #62

And the way to change that is to let a republican win One of the 99 Mar 2016 #68

Yup Old Codger Mar 2016 #112

And I see that you missed the point too. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #130

Agree with everything you've posted in this thread. closeupready Mar 2016 #175

Climate change and the sixth global mass-extinction event is happening now SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #65

And those issues will be better served by a Republican? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #81

I am not in the "no we can't" camp SoLeftIAmRight Mar 2016 #94

And the best way to do that is vote One of the 99 Mar 2016 #96

And I see that you missed the point too. Gwhittey Mar 2016 #258

No I got it but you completely missed it One of the 99 Mar 2016 #259

If wanting a honest and Gwhittey Mar 2016 #263

Thanks One of the 99 Mar 2016 #265

I agree SoLeftIAmRight NEOhiodemocrat Mar 2016 #213

I'm curious if you think there is no limit to the lies, corruption, & backstabbing we should accept Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #123

Not saying that we should. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #129

How are we going to change this party though? Hillary is basically a Republican. Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #196

You change it from within One of the 99 Mar 2016 #197

Well, that's why I'm supporting Bernie, but Arugula Latte Mar 2016 #311

Doesn't mean we stop trying. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #312

No it's not Bradical79 Mar 2016 #134

I understand what you are saying One of the 99 Mar 2016 #142

Thanks for voting today! And for Bernie artislife Mar 2016 #32

I second that sentiment. Betty Karlson Mar 2016 #37

Reform under Trump will be brutal. WhiteTara Mar 2016 #225

Chin up amigo. You are witnessing history. dinkytron Mar 2016 #22

Both are miles better than the alternatives. zappaman Mar 2016 #24

DU is supposed to be a Democratic site... freebrew Mar 2016 #28

Amen x 1000 n/t SheenaR Mar 2016 #47

So in other words, you missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #58

No, I got the point... freebrew Mar 2016 #72

No you missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #74

The one solace I find Kelvin Mace Mar 2016 #34

LOL! One of the 99 Mar 2016 #40

Great sentiment SheenaR Mar 2016 #45

Guess you missed the point too One of the 99 Mar 2016 #50

Guess you missed my point SheenaR Mar 2016 #54

Sorry if I misunderstood. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #59

For the moment .. Trajan Mar 2016 #56

Buh-bye One of the 99 Mar 2016 #61

Your cause is just Trajan Mar 2016 #51

Well when some are acting like spoiled children One of the 99 Mar 2016 #55

Do you take that approach in TM99 Mar 2016 #269

When they miss the point One of the 99 Mar 2016 #271

You have no point. TM99 Mar 2016 #272

You really don't get it One of the 99 Mar 2016 #275

Oh, I definitely get it. TM99 Mar 2016 #285

Still not getting. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #291

Yes, it is true, TM99 Mar 2016 #308

Nothing can be done PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #52

You really missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #57

No, I got the point PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #73

You just proved that you missed it. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #79

I'll let the readers of this thread decide. PowerToThePeople Mar 2016 #83

I think most readers of this thread feel that the people saying they will not vote for the nominee musicblind Mar 2016 #164

I like Bernie, it is the small core of hardliner followers of his that are nauseating Tarc Mar 2016 #60

To be fair some on both sides are playing that game. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #63

False equivalency bullshit taught_me_patience Mar 2016 #88

Never said it was an equal number One of the 99 Mar 2016 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Mike Nelson Mar 2016 #69

You're welcome. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #71

Ask not ....yeah we get it. YOHABLO Mar 2016 #77

I voted Capt. Obvious Mar 2016 #82

Thanks for voting. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #87

DU is just a message board. I could never let it get me sad. bigwillq Mar 2016 #85

IMHO Old Codger Mar 2016 #95

So you missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #97

Not at all Old Codger Mar 2016 #110

Agreed. ;-) One of the 99 Mar 2016 #117

Respectfully, I think we only have one good candidate. Punkingal Mar 2016 #100

It's always like this during primary season. cyberswede Mar 2016 #104

I hope so. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #106

That's how we ended up with Nixon, too. tabasco Mar 2016 #105

I couldn't possibly agree more Dem2 Mar 2016 #109

Thanks. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #118

DU is an internet forum and it's not worth getting sad or angry about anything here. Kaleva Mar 2016 #113

A fundamental divide in the Democratic Party that cannot be breached. alarimer Mar 2016 #114

Letting a republican get elected is sending a message? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #119

If the Democratic Party goes for Hillary marions ghost Mar 2016 #120

So what you're saying is One of the 99 Mar 2016 #127

No, read it again marions ghost Mar 2016 #135

I read what you said One of the 99 Mar 2016 #138

It. Has. Not. Worked. marions ghost Mar 2016 #141

Neither has the alternative. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #144

Too many reasons for that marions ghost Mar 2016 #147

Yes it needs to be reformed One of the 99 Mar 2016 #148

Used to think that marions ghost Mar 2016 #149

Sorry to hear that. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #152

There are many like me out there marions ghost Mar 2016 #156

I survived both times. closeupready Mar 2016 #176

It's not all about you One of the 99 Mar 2016 #178

You asked how it worked out for me, now you say it's not about me. closeupready Mar 2016 #179

Not what I asked. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #180

I answered, you just don't want to hear contradictory ideas. closeupready Mar 2016 #182

Again you're making it all about you One of the 99 Mar 2016 #184

The political is personal, and the personal is political. closeupready Mar 2016 #191

Still making it all about you One of the 99 Mar 2016 #202

The political is personal; the personal, political. closeupready Mar 2016 #239

Repeating it over and over One of the 99 Mar 2016 #240

You do realise that GOP Gwhittey Mar 2016 #266

You have proof they are lying? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #270

excellent message, thank you steve2470 Mar 2016 #122

Thanks. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #126

Accepting the lesser of two evils approach has contributed Broward Mar 2016 #124

And letting the greater of two evils win the election One of the 99 Mar 2016 #125

We haven't accepted the lesser of two evils Shankapotomus Mar 2016 #143

Voting is also not only about this election. jeff47 Mar 2016 #131

Emotions run high which lead to misunderstanding and eventual conflict tymorial Mar 2016 #133

Great post! One of the 99 Mar 2016 #140

It's good vs evil for many andym Mar 2016 #145

I thought only One of the 99 Mar 2016 #150

Politics attracts people with extremist and intolerant views among others. andym Mar 2016 #170

I truly respect and understand the gist of your message CoffeeCat Mar 2016 #166

Guess you missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #168

How, I'm asking, can it be that all opposing views are"missing the point"???? closeupready Mar 2016 #192

Nice diversion One of the 99 Mar 2016 #200

I disagree with your statements that we have "two great candidates". nt ladjf Mar 2016 #169

Thats not what I said. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #171

Correction noted: You said "good". I misquoted you by saying "great". ladjf Mar 2016 #172

They are still better than Trump. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #173

That statement, I might agree with, but haven't decided yet. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #174

A bad Democrat is still better than a good Republican One of the 99 Mar 2016 #177

That has been my thought for many years. However, this year has me ladjf Mar 2016 #190

You really think that President Trump One of the 99 Mar 2016 #204

I totally disagree with your opinion. nt ladjf Mar 2016 #206

So you think that Trump would be good for the country? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #207

No. I misread your post. Trump would be a terrible disaster for America. ladjf Mar 2016 #208

OK cool! One of the 99 Mar 2016 #210

That's what crazy repubs say about Obama. /nt RiverLover Mar 2016 #218

A few weeks before JFK was assassinated, he ladjf Mar 2016 #287

Feeling better NHDEMFORLIFE Mar 2016 #183

Thanks One of the 99 Mar 2016 #185

I like them both, my Yin & Yang Dream Team. What I'm thrilled about is how The Donald made Jeb cry! Sunlei Mar 2016 #186

Where I am... PunkinPi Mar 2016 #188

I think if you go to the Hillary group they'll give you hugs. pdsimdars Mar 2016 #189

Not looking for hugs One of the 99 Mar 2016 #203

Both groups get testy to criticisms or anything they initially perceive to be critical. gordianot Mar 2016 #281

As Democrats we have but one task randr Mar 2016 #205

Don't disagree One of the 99 Mar 2016 #209

The dark side of a free Democracy randr Mar 2016 #232

Very true! One of the 99 Mar 2016 #234

''Voting is not just about you and remaining pure on your ideological high horse.'' Shadowflash Mar 2016 #214

So allowing a republican to win One of the 99 Mar 2016 #216

See. This is the problem. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #219

That's true in the primary One of the 99 Mar 2016 #220

obviously not. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #222

Then you are just helping the GOP One of the 99 Mar 2016 #224

Yup. Shadowflash Mar 2016 #227

Good for you One of the 99 Mar 2016 #236

Here we go with the Nader meme. Never mind that it has been repeatedly disproved. nt pberq Mar 2016 #255

Never been disproved One of the 99 Mar 2016 #260

Sorry. Do the research. pberq Mar 2016 #288

I have One of the 99 Mar 2016 #289

With all due respect, I don't think Secretary Clinton is a great candidate DefenseLawyer Mar 2016 #215

Never said that she was. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #217

I'm never voting for the Republican running on the Democratic ticket! pinebox Mar 2016 #223

And they won't get worse if Trump or Cruz is president? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #226

You know what? pinebox Mar 2016 #228

You are correct Shadowflash Mar 2016 #229

Precisely pinebox Mar 2016 #230

Well Shadowflash Mar 2016 #233

As the saying goes.. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #237

And, if I sat out the election.... Shadowflash Mar 2016 #243

So your argument is One of the 99 Mar 2016 #235

No my argument is pinebox Mar 2016 #238

In the primary there are other choices One of the 99 Mar 2016 #242

Let me explain LWolf Mar 2016 #231

So you missed the whole point One of the 99 Mar 2016 #245

No, I think I got the whole point. LWolf Mar 2016 #247

No my point was a call for unity and One of the 99 Mar 2016 #248

A call for "unity" and "civility" LWolf Mar 2016 #249

So you're argument is One of the 99 Mar 2016 #250

How disingenuous of you. LWolf Mar 2016 #283

So by your logic One of the 99 Mar 2016 #293

When that someone does so LWolf Mar 2016 #313

It's not the language that sparks the frenzy One of the 99 Mar 2016 #314

Bullshit. LWolf Mar 2016 #315

That's what people who refuse to listen always say. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #316

Exactly. LWolf Mar 2016 #317

Thank you, thank you very much! One of the 99 Mar 2016 #318

"Electing another neo-liberal is a huge win for Republicans" - excellent and so true! eom pberq Mar 2016 #256

I agree with most dissenters here and would add.. mymomwasright Mar 2016 #244

The dissenters here One of the 99 Mar 2016 #246

some people have major issues and are just using the primary as the latest excuse to air them out Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #253

I hope so. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #261

I had some friends I couldnt have conversations with for a couple years, over Ralph Effin' Nader Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #262

If progressives continue to Rebkeh Mar 2016 #277

And letting a Republican get elected One of the 99 Mar 2016 #278

Voting out of fear is a win for them anyway eom Rebkeh Mar 2016 #279

Letting them win is a win for them One of the 99 Mar 2016 #280

No, that's not what I mean Rebkeh Mar 2016 #284

How so? One of the 99 Mar 2016 #292

The people are not the tools, the party is Rebkeh Mar 2016 #294

But if the party is then so would the candidates they put up for office One of the 99 Mar 2016 #296

I've already addressed both questions in the above posts Rebkeh Mar 2016 #309

Completely Agree UMTerp01 Mar 2016 #282

Go take a walk - TBF Mar 2016 #295

Wow, you really missed the whole point One of the 99 Mar 2016 #297

Oh I got the point - TBF Mar 2016 #298

No you missed the point. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #300

Take a walk - TBF Mar 2016 #303

But you have missed the point One of the 99 Mar 2016 #304

See below - TBF Mar 2016 #306

From your post above (which proves my argument): TBF Mar 2016 #305

And another post that proves my point TBF Mar 2016 #307

No it just further proves that you missed mune. One of the 99 Mar 2016 #310

I was at a Caucus over the weekend in Nebraska Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2016 #299

That's great One of the 99 Mar 2016 #301