2016 Postmortem

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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41. They haven't been voting for a while. Something is obviously broken but blaming "them" only helps

Mon Apr 4, 2016, 09:05 PM

Apr 2016

movements like Bernie's and the ones that follow. But you DLCers continue what you're doing. You're turning people away and blaming them.

And that's good for the other half of the Democratic Party

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On Chris Hayes, James Carville is "vexed" as to why people support [View all] muntrv Apr 2016 OP

Poor brother Jimmy, . . . . no wonder we don't hear much from him these last years. pdsimdars Apr 2016 #1

According to him kcjohn1 Apr 2016 #2

It's the economy stupid hollowdweller Apr 2016 #89

That is status quo incarnate, right there... Betty Karlson Apr 2016 #99

It's like Will Rogers's version of Calvin Coolidge's State of the Union speech Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #105

Old school douchebag with the republican wife says what? whatchamacallit Apr 2016 #3

They're both drunks who cares? elehhhhna Apr 2016 #4

That elevates the conversation SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #18

James and wife are bombed ALLATIME. elehhhhna Apr 2016 #50

I always wondered how they could stand each other! dchill Apr 2016 #54

Old School DLC BLue Dog RW Third Way Ferd Berfel Apr 2016 #43

In other words, the Clintons and their brain trust..n/t tokenlib Apr 2016 #49

+ "with the Republican wife." dchill Apr 2016 #67

Well, Bernie isn't a Democrat. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #5

thanks for the perspective from Canada! ibegurpard Apr 2016 #8

I LOVE my healthcare! NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #12

.....so you don't bother to vote for health care for us....you have it covered. virtualobserver Apr 2016 #20

Huh? n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #46

Spot on! n/t Bjornsdotter Apr 2016 #48

You'd rather he run a third party campaign? Armstead Apr 2016 #9

As things have turned out ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #44

I think he would not have gotten as much, but would have caught on Armstead Apr 2016 #47

Do you think Ross Perot got enough media coverage? dchill Apr 2016 #69

Not the point. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #71

I'm sure it's part of it. dchill Apr 2016 #72

Yes, but this is what a large percentage of Dems want. Lunabell Apr 2016 #11

Hillary is not a democrat. Loudestlib Apr 2016 #17

amen to that oldandhappy Apr 2016 #56

Leave it to you not to understand being a Democrat is more than a check mark on an index card. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2016 #64

It has nothing to do with ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #70

Why do Hillary supporters hate our representative democracy RANGERMAN89 Apr 2016 #116

"I recognize a self-serving opportunist when I see one" AgingAmerican Apr 2016 #129

right ibegurpard Apr 2016 #137

You live in Canada so can't vote anyway? Lol, that explains a lot. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #83

I live in Canada ... NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #84

Lol, still,me explains a lot. Nt Logical Apr 2016 #85

I'm sure. n/t NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #86

Do you get Canadian healthcare? Kentonio Apr 2016 #94

Of course. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #101

Yet you don't think that's achievable in the US? Kentonio Apr 2016 #107

Not only that ibegurpard Apr 2016 #138

What media coverage? They have essentially blacked him out. emsimon33 Apr 2016 #104

His words, not mine. NanceGreggs Apr 2016 #135

I know. You actually hate him. I read your comment to that effect in the Hillary Clinton Group Bonobo Apr 2016 #109

Well of course, he is *literally* paid to say that n/t arcane1 Apr 2016 #6

I'm vexed as to why anybody still listens to James Carville or his right-wing wife Bjorn Against Apr 2016 #7

^^^This^^^ dflprincess Apr 2016 #51

James "I got mine, you pions can wait' Carville beedle Apr 2016 #10

I agree with vandenHeuvel... SMC22307 Apr 2016 #13

The disconnect between "We've been in charge since 1992" and "half of the party is revolting" is WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #14

11 Governors, 13 Senators, 69 Reps, 913 state seats lost MisterP Apr 2016 #25

Yes. They didn't vote. nt Jitter65 Apr 2016 #32

They haven't been voting for a while. Something is obviously broken but blaming "them" only helps WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #41

Count DeMonet: The peasants are revolting! King: You said it, they stink on ice!! Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #36

"half of the party is revolting" ... dchill Apr 2016 #57

Tell James to put his hat back on.... Segami Apr 2016 #15

Wow, what a collection of assholes! BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #33

And here it is! longship Apr 2016 #82

Meh. he's just trolling....Wants to start a fight with Sanders and supporters Armstead Apr 2016 #16

That hee haw mthr fkr, wendylaroux Apr 2016 #19

Well said! BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #29

both of them are hard to take,much less look at. wendylaroux Apr 2016 #31

Hey Did You Hear noretreatnosurrender Apr 2016 #21

+1,000,000 ... nt Trajan Apr 2016 #73

Just another irrelevant bloviating pundit. CharlotteVale Apr 2016 #22

Sonny Jim, your and my definition of Democrat Unwanted Democrat Apr 2016 #23

I'm glad it upsets him. nt killbotfactory Apr 2016 #24

Oh poor sad has-been James Carville. Don't be vexed. You don't need to understand. Nanjeanne Apr 2016 #26

Chris Hayes is also vexed at why people support Bernie, even after he tries to talk them out of it. BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #27

And a blatant example of how out of touch they are. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2016 #28

Bernie is like a Democrat Plus. Funtatlaguy Apr 2016 #30

This is the problem with the Washington party establishment. potone Apr 2016 #34

good post snowy owl Apr 2016 #39

+1, It kills me that they keep expressing this sentiment, in the middle of a campaign Marr Apr 2016 #78

He should be vexed . . . Depaysement Apr 2016 #35

Hayes got Clinton-loving Carville on-why am I not surprised.Hillary-have you claimed free media yet? snowy owl Apr 2016 #37

Bless his heart, James Carville is a real piece of work. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #38

Labels are really, really, important when selecting a candidate to vote for. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #40

Carville made a lot of sense about Bernie. He lumped Bernie in with the RW'ers who R B Garr Apr 2016 #42

Carville channeld by Hader. Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #45

Hader nailed it. Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #97

King of the snakes! Indeed! Juicy_Bellows Apr 2016 #100

Better hang it up, old man. Elmer S. E. Dump Apr 2016 #52

No James dflprincess Apr 2016 #53

the trash can on his head apparently isn't big enough to cover his mouth - duct tape would help Agony Apr 2016 #55

Bernie is not a Democrat. dchill Apr 2016 #58

Or Joe Lieberman, for that matter Art_from_Ark Apr 2016 #61

Indeed. dchill Apr 2016 #65

he doesn't have Sheldon Adelson on his speed dial Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #114

Carville is right, the DNC needs a Democrat as the nominee. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #59

I thought he was right, as well. He made total sense R B Garr Apr 2016 #60

Good point. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #63

I was actually relieved and impressed to hear him R B Garr Apr 2016 #68

So you demanded that Sanders not caucus with us last time we had an otherwise tied senate, huh? Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #112

So why did the DNC allow him to run as a Democrat in this race? TM99 Apr 2016 #76

The better question would be why did Sanders seen to run in the DNC Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #81

See, that really isn't answering the questions TM99 Apr 2016 #92

I am just reacting to Sanders actions, BTW, you probably already know Sanders ran on the DNC ticket Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #93

Y'all just can never answer questions asked TM99 Apr 2016 #96

gives a whole new meaning to Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #113

Ah, now you know how I feel about Sanders, or when he starts making Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #122

See, there you go yet again. TM99 Apr 2016 #124

Good, I like posting truths, facts are good. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #125

Thoughts in a bubble of your TM99 Apr 2016 #131

No, I don't have to make excuses for Hillary nor boost her up, she is very capable of doing Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #133

Yes, she does do quite well on her own making excuses. n/t Contrary1 Apr 2016 #134

Don't you know? Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #102

Bada bing! TM99 Apr 2016 #115

The DNC? Whose chair has no problem allying herself with Republicans like Sheldon Adelson Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #111

If Bernie Wins People Like Carville Become.... global1 Apr 2016 #62

Horrible man dislikes Sanders. Oh no! JackRiddler Apr 2016 #66

What is more interesting sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #74

Did Hayes have him on his program because Carville did another movie? Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #98

Carville is full of crap! He knows damn well what is happening... tokenlib Apr 2016 #75

Won't hold my nose twice SisterSarah Apr 2016 #77

I don't get it either. Bernie is selling snake oil redstateblues Apr 2016 #79

neither is Carville's wife TheDormouse Apr 2016 #80

he is an ass SoLeftIAmRight Apr 2016 #87

Recent quote from Thom Hartmann: Manifestor_of_Light Apr 2016 #88

I'm vexed as to why Carville married a Republican. Lint Head Apr 2016 #90

Who else would have him? BernieforPres2016 Apr 2016 #121

I don't think that either one of them regard being a Democrat or a Republican as anything more djean111 Apr 2016 #130

James Carville frustrated_lefty Apr 2016 #91

So, they drug the crpyt keeper back out, huh? Major Hogwash Apr 2016 #95

Turtle man speaks! There are Democratic Party principles. emsimon33 Apr 2016 #103

carville needs to go back to the 90's where he belongs. Cobalt Violet Apr 2016 #106

I am vexed by his attitude towards politics. Bonobo Apr 2016 #108

that's my take exactly Locrian Apr 2016 #117

If he doesn't get the nomination, I can't wait for the next time we're short one vote in the Senate. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #110

Maybe that's the point James shawn703 Apr 2016 #118

Bernie is a better dem than they wished. Too bad MaeScott Apr 2016 #119

I usually don't support mentioning peoples wives, but... Sky Masterson Apr 2016 #120

Carville is correct. Bernie is what a Democrat used to be and should be. Vinca Apr 2016 #123

Bernie is unblemished by the Wall Street connection, for the most part. Jackie Wilson Said Apr 2016 #126

Get with the program, James! Lifelong Protester Apr 2016 #127

That's about as absurd as saying HRC isn't really a woman d_legendary1 Apr 2016 #128

I'm vexxed as to why anyone care what he thinks n/t dana_b Apr 2016 #132

I'm vexed as to how he could marry Mary Matalin ibegurpard Apr 2016 #136