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WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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68. Here's one thing Obama has on Clinton: Trickle Down economics
Thu Apr 21, 2016, 10:07 AM
Apr 2016

Obama came to office at the nadir of an economic collapse Democrats conveniently pinned on Bush despite the fact that we bought the 401K Casino economy Republicans sold America.

In one sense, the 401K Casino economy is like a student loan: for kids to get them, their parents, who are already in debt, have to co-sign. And thanks to Democrats like Joe Biden, you cannot escape student loan debt through bankruptcy. That makes them generational. 401Ks work in much the same way in that there's no getting out. Republicans and New Democrats were ingenious in setting up a system that funnels money from the middle class to the 10%.

We've refused to accept responsibility for Bill Clinton, who pretty much resided over the consolidation of everything from media to financial institutions, the creation of Wall Street black markets, and brought us race to the bottom trade deals.

I think 90% of us hoped Obama was going to be the change candidate. Instead, we got another New Democrat.

Where Obama had the luxury of a Trickle Down, 401K inflating bailout, Hillary won't. Her "incrimental" platform will keep her married to the Casino sham with no public appetite for another Wall Street bailout.

"fermenting a revolution". LOLZ! KittyWampus Apr 2016 #1
You love endless war, wall street gambling with no risk on the taxpayers' backs, fossil fuels killin RiverLover Apr 2016 #4
Spell check is your friend. brush Apr 2016 #6
? which word did I mess up? RiverLover Apr 2016 #12
Pedantry is the last refuge of the bereft of argument and the witless. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #22
Maybe, but I know the difference between "foment" and "ferment". brush Apr 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Apr 2016 #33
Careful there, buddy. The last Stockholm Syndrome poster got banned from his insults towards AAs brush Apr 2016 #35
and the bannings will probably continue until morale improves. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #41
Or until posters stop breaking Terms of Service. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #297
I think the definition of ToS depends on the Admin. I leave it to their discretion. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #298
If one can't put fort a cogent argument, they resort to claiming "race baiting", even though you... George II Apr 2016 #77
I know the history on DU and I will agree the term... tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #87
And this is a passive-aggressive way to resurrect it ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #194
they don't and never did Hiraeth Apr 2016 #38
Jason Isbell fan here A Little Weird Apr 2016 #269
For real Hiraeth Apr 2016 #270
you are apparently ignorant of the definition of "ferment" virtualobserver Apr 2016 #108
It's primary definition is a noun (look it up). The poster used it as a verb. brush Apr 2016 #111
both words are fine in that context...if you "look it up". virtualobserver Apr 2016 #117
I looked it up. He should have use "foment" in that context as "ferment" is primarily used as a noun brush Apr 2016 #120
"primarily" is not a synonym for "exclusively"..... virtualobserver Apr 2016 #129
Yeah, yeah. The poster dug in his heels though when his poor choice was pointed out brush Apr 2016 #133
It like the difference between nauseous and nauseated. wildeyed Apr 2016 #252
I'm with you. Ferment is for wine and sourdough, foment is for revolution. brush Apr 2016 #255
Yes, it is a FERMENTED. wildeyed Apr 2016 #257
What do you feed it with? brush Apr 2016 #259
Flour, usually. wildeyed Apr 2016 #260
Thanks for the info. I'm not a baker but I'm tempted to try it now. brush Apr 2016 #262
It's fun. wildeyed Apr 2016 #263
Nobody says "ferment a revolution". brush Apr 2016 #304
So what. Who cares. pangaia Apr 2016 #303
fer·ment frylock Apr 2016 #212
"Foment a revolution" or "ferment a revolution"? brush Apr 2016 #219
You got schooled. frylock Apr 2016 #220
I think you did. brush Apr 2016 #221
Take it up with Merriam-Webster frylock Apr 2016 #223
Foment a revolution or ferment a revolution? brush Apr 2016 #225
You tried to make this about the definition of one word. frylock Apr 2016 #229
I think not. All you have to do is google brush Apr 2016 #232
So in your world, words have only one definition? frylock Apr 2016 #234
Let's say we both let it go. I gave you several definitions of ferment, both noun and verb brush Apr 2016 #247
I'm good. frylock Apr 2016 #248
No kidding. RiverLover Apr 2016 #27
Don't know much about the history of that phrase around here, huh? brush Apr 2016 #29
Stockholm Syndrome is a phrase that only applies to PoC now, according to DU? RiverLover Apr 2016 #31
Good luck. They will use anything to advance their world view. Banning is the most efficient for rhett o rick Apr 2016 #288
That makes no sense whatsoever. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #39
"That makes no sense whatsoever." RiverLover Apr 2016 #60
Do wut? Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #64
Hillary is NOT doing any of things... fun n serious Apr 2016 #146
Are you trying to foment an argument? George II Apr 2016 #11
Ferment. . A state of agitation or of turbulent change or development. RiverLover Apr 2016 #16
Isn't "foment" the verb you were looking for? "Ferment" is primarily a noun. Even this . . . brush Apr 2016 #34
I agree that foment would have been better, tabasco Apr 2016 #199
Why do you think people don't know theorigin? The origin in hostage situations is pretty well known. brush Apr 2016 #30
Why? Because it's misused so often around here. Seems every time someone has a different... George II Apr 2016 #44
It was more than that though. It was used to imply that people were too stupid . . . brush Apr 2016 #46
That too, implying (sometimes MORE that just implying) that you're not smart enough to... George II Apr 2016 #79
I didn't read it, does it really say that! LOL boston bean Apr 2016 #20
What a crass thing to say. Your showing your....well you know. haikugal Apr 2016 #121
What??? LOL boston bean Apr 2016 #123
. haikugal Apr 2016 #127
I prefer my revolutions distilled jack_krass Apr 2016 #89
This message was self-deleted by its author tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #91
He needs a Thesaurus - but his father told him COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #209
Maybe get one yourself. frylock Apr 2016 #214
Keep beating that dead horse. Why not recognize the truth- COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #277
Actually, you are the one who is incorrect here. They can be & are used interchangeably. RiverLover Apr 2016 #279
Beat..beat...beat....this horse is going to get up, i swear. Beat... beat... COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #281
Why not just admit that you need to smack up your vocab game? frylock Apr 2016 #282
No. When in doubt I generally don't go to the very last possible COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #283
Here's the deal. You fucked up. frylock Apr 2016 #284
Bye. COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #285
The revolution he is trying to create and ferment -- LOL betsuni Apr 2016 #2
I'll have... JSup Apr 2016 #57
fer·ment frylock Apr 2016 #215
Haven't we had enough of these Stockholm Syndrome insults? brush Apr 2016 #3
I certainly thought so... But I guess "no". Agschmid Apr 2016 #7
+1... SidDithers Apr 2016 #8
if you CHOOSE to be insulted, by all means, have at it. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #43
Which is probably why were seeing this nonsense again. JoePhilly Apr 2016 #56
Well ... they are proving they are not psychically damaged by supporting ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #93
How can any writer, who doesn't know the difference between ferment and foment, be taken seriously? SidDithers Apr 2016 #5
The writer is a "lecturer in the Department of People sufrommich Apr 2016 #13
Low verbal IQ eh? Its common, don't feel bad. RiverLover Apr 2016 #19
https://www.google.ca/#q=ferment+definition polly7 Apr 2016 #58
Right? In trying to show how smart they are, they proved beyond a shadow of a doubt RiverLover Apr 2016 #75
Check it again. Ferment's primary definition is a noun. Foment is the verb that should have . . . brush Apr 2016 #107
"ferment" is a verb too. hello? Read above or below for the definition. RiverLover Apr 2016 #112
As I said, it's primary use is as a noun. brush Apr 2016 #115
I've never used it as a noun in my life, there are much better terms. polly7 Apr 2016 #118
Oh, people are laughing all right. He should have use "foment". brush Apr 2016 #125
In your opinion. In mine, he used the exact right term and most polly7 Apr 2016 #130
I love the fact northernsouthern Apr 2016 #196
OMG. You're just digging in further into your own crap. He used ferment correctly. RiverLover Apr 2016 #124
Well, you learned something new today, didn't you? frylock Apr 2016 #217
Lollololololololol! northernsouthern Apr 2016 #186
Laughing at yourself — I like it. brush Apr 2016 #190
Exactly northernsouthern Apr 2016 #191
I r smart! frylock Apr 2016 #218
Um... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #305
+1! tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #97
Yep. At this point, all they have is doubling down on their own silliness. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2016 #189
They need this guy in their camp. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #198
Right? frylock Apr 2016 #222
Um... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #307
Oh, goody! Ferment-gate lives on! frylock Apr 2016 #308
Too funny Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #309
I know, right?! Derpa derpa derp. frylock Apr 2016 #216
Fermented revolution? Tarc Apr 2016 #9
Make mine a red, I prefer that over the whites. brush Apr 2016 #32
LOL ... Nicely played ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #88
See response #58 above nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #100
Yes, congrats on dipping down to the uncommon, 2nd defnition Tarc Apr 2016 #141
No, it was the first definition in the very first link. polly7 Apr 2016 #144
You've spent a lot of time telling people to "see post 58!" for an alleged triviality Tarc Apr 2016 #147
I've never even posted that. polly7 Apr 2016 #148
Ah, I assumed you were the first poster replying back again, never looked at the username Tarc Apr 2016 #149
You were talking with that other poster about MY post. polly7 Apr 2016 #150
Hard to tell one complaining Sanders supporter from another these days Tarc Apr 2016 #151
LMAO. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #152
Racist shit. nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #10
How in the hell is this racist? You know what is racist & sexist & harms those causes? RiverLover Apr 2016 #14
What are you trying to ferment here? nt LexVegas Apr 2016 #17
See reply #58 nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #113
Because somehow in the HRC camp, they've gotten Stormfront and Tumblr to peacefully coexist VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #23
That h supporter is not deep enough to understand artislife Apr 2016 #242
+1... SidDithers Apr 2016 #15
It has nothing to do with skin color. RiverLover Apr 2016 #21
Sure it doesn't... SidDithers Apr 2016 #25
Wow. RiverLover Apr 2016 #28
Is everything now racist or sexist to Hill supporters? Nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #116
No, just the stuff that's racist and sexist..nt SidDithers Apr 2016 #153
+1000 mcar Apr 2016 #213
;) sheshe2 Apr 2016 #271
+1000 stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #202
This message was self-deleted by its author boston bean Apr 2016 #18
Oh brother Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #24
+1 n/t JTFrog Apr 2016 #162
it's not necessary to be a low information narcissist to write for Common Dreams, but it sure helps. geek tragedy Apr 2016 #36
A revolutionary wine or is it whine? rbrnmw Apr 2016 #53
See response #58 and educate yourself nt tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #119
It has EVERYTHING to do with race and gender. EVERYTHING. Godhumor Apr 2016 #37
You're forgetting the other major group Bernie wins - YOUNG PEOPLE. You Hillary supporters are MillennialDem Apr 2016 #42
Pretty sure I never implied you had Stockholm Syndrome for supporting Sanders n/t Godhumor Apr 2016 #51
And I never said Hillary supporters had Stockholm Syndrome. I said you're telling us MillennialDem Apr 2016 #55
Demagoguery is all they know. VulgarPoet Apr 2016 #52
It has fuck-all to do with race and gender. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #50
Again, implication is the demographic groups that are leading Clinton to the nomination Godhumor Apr 2016 #54
The implication would only apply to a small cross-section of said groups. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #62
Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT. fleur-de-lisa Apr 2016 #66
Thanks for the heads up! Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #67
This makes sense northernsouthern Apr 2016 #96
I get that demographic divides are difficult to understand and accept Godhumor Apr 2016 #109
Thanks for the compliment. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #139
Very well said. brush Apr 2016 #99
Last I looked, plenty of white men voted for Hillary.. tex-wyo-dem Apr 2016 #136
Thanks for trying to educate some folks. Good luck with it. K&R Hiraeth Apr 2016 #40
It would seem to be a textbook case Doctor_J Apr 2016 #45
face it... a lot of them just want a female prez. It's that simple. nt antigop Apr 2016 #49
Absolutely. Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #65
^^^This. and that reason alone can have disastrous consequences. Hillary is not the right woman desmiller Apr 2016 #227
and neither was Carly Fiorina! k8conant Apr 2016 #278
Definitely not Carly Fiorina. My mother called her "Horse face." desmiller Apr 2016 #287
Those are some excellent observations. Its insanity run amok. /nt RiverLover Apr 2016 #61
Been say'n this for a long time. n/t HereSince1628 Apr 2016 #47
47 replies...I can see 8. LOL Lizzie Poppet Apr 2016 #48
Yep. RiverLover Apr 2016 #63
There it is again... CrowCityDem Apr 2016 #59
Here's one thing Obama has on Clinton: Trickle Down economics WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #68
Great post. RiverLover Apr 2016 #73
I was young and naive, too. I look back now and consider myself an WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #82
But it was much harder back then to put two and two together. We had no Internet. Arugula Latte Apr 2016 #230
Very true. RiverLover Apr 2016 #273
The stockholm argument is for simpletons and to give certian people feelings..... NCTraveler Apr 2016 #69
I can't wait till skinner calls it! hrmjustin Apr 2016 #70
Damn. 100% spot on. Nt HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #71
This is the kind of shit that makes people hope a purge is on the horizon. JTFrog Apr 2016 #72
Oh good, more Obama bashing. auntpurl Apr 2016 #74
Nearly 90 Percent Of People Killed In Recent Drone Strikes Were Not The Target RiverLover Apr 2016 #78
I AM a moderate. auntpurl Apr 2016 #80
So I guess you don't mind thousands of people just living their lives like you & I being murdered RiverLover Apr 2016 #83
That's a characterisation, not a fact. auntpurl Apr 2016 #86
Its a fact: RiverLover Apr 2016 #92
Unilateral intervention is (nearly) always bad auntpurl Apr 2016 #94
Our being there, killing people, is creating the global threat. RiverLover Apr 2016 #98
Bilge. Starry Messenger Apr 2016 #76
Millions didn't even get to vote. onecaliberal Apr 2016 #81
It seems many are becoming desensitized to this. I'm glad you aren't one of them RiverLover Apr 2016 #103
Disinterest in fairness is an indicator of the condition, a symptom of it, in fact. CentralCoaster Apr 2016 #105
Thanks, CentralCoaster! RiverLover Apr 2016 #137
Many people died in the struggle for voting rights, I will never forget that, anyone who thinks it's onecaliberal Apr 2016 #142
Recommended. That is indeed the correct definition of Stockholm syndrome. Autumn Apr 2016 #84
Me too. Patty Hearst. RiverLover Apr 2016 #104
Leaving the democratic party months ago was the single most freeing moment of my life. Autumn Apr 2016 #122
Once one is no longer emotionally tied to the Party, one can objectively assess it's behavior. Maedhros Apr 2016 #134
It's downright ugly. Autumn Apr 2016 #135
Leaving the race and gender issues out of this (for the moment) ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #85
+1 Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #106
oh gawd, why did I take you off ignore. buh-bye again. Hiraeth Apr 2016 #114
Thank you ... putting back on Ignore will certainly improve the caliber of replies I receive. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #132
test! stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #203
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #210
Yup ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #145
Now, the number is up to 43 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #155
The underlying arrogance is difficult to watch ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #156
Hardly we've been saying the same about working class/poor folks who vote Republican for years azurnoir Apr 2016 #208
Me! wildeyed Apr 2016 #224
It drives them away-them who? azurnoir Apr 2016 #238
Anyone you are trying to convince. wildeyed Apr 2016 #240
I do too ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #250
Absolutely! wildeyed Apr 2016 #256
Do better next time? ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #258
Bull shit! ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #226
Stockholm Syndrome is accurately described in the OP and you admit it's aimed at the working class azurnoir Apr 2016 #237
In the context, and with history of DU, and the voting patterns in this primary ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #244
This is a different poster and an entirely different OP azurnoir Apr 2016 #245
Okay. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #251
Yeah, odd, that. frylock Apr 2016 #228
Just a sign of the times azurnoir Apr 2016 #239
They'll go back to disparaging the South in the GE. frylock Apr 2016 #243
Hmmm. northernsouthern Apr 2016 #90
they're just blowing chaff because both Clintons make statements that'd sink Sanders permanently MisterP Apr 2016 #154
The definition is EXACTLY correct and applies to every gender, race and class of people. polly7 Apr 2016 #95
Anyone who claims to know what hundreds of millions of voters feel is full of him/herself. randome Apr 2016 #128
No-one claimed that. nt. polly7 Apr 2016 #131
The article does just that. 'America' needs to break free of Stockholm Syndrome. randome Apr 2016 #172
K&R sadoldgirl Apr 2016 #101
democracy, when it goes against you, don't you just hate it? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2016 #102
Oh it will be broken. Give it some time. KPN Apr 2016 #110
Most likely. Its a damn shame though. /nt RiverLover Apr 2016 #140
Some of us know what it means and this is a good post. Thank you. K&R! nt haikugal Apr 2016 #126
And Thank God for that. RiverLover Apr 2016 #138
. haikugal Apr 2016 #158
. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #143
Oy. greatauntoftriplets Apr 2016 #157
"It has NOTHING to do with RACE." NuclearDem Apr 2016 #159
Bullshit. The OP is about how the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is being held hostage RiverLover Apr 2016 #166
It was a waste of time trying to explain this to WillyT NuclearDem Apr 2016 #169
The article doesn't mention blacks at all, because its referring to the entire political party. RiverLover Apr 2016 #173
K & R imagine2015 Apr 2016 #160
Your comment at the end of the article is completely clueless Sheepshank Apr 2016 #161
Stockholm syndrome is not about race. Its about hostages & how those hostages deal with it. RiverLover Apr 2016 #163
Keep it up... Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #164
What you're posting is unhinged from reality. The (D) party has gone rogue Right Wing. RiverLover Apr 2016 #168
"unhinged from reality," what?? Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #175
They know this OP has nothing to do with race. Autumn Apr 2016 #268
Yet Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #290
Thanks for the high five, but there's nothing I can do to help you with your comprehension problems. Autumn Apr 2016 #291
Didn't request your help. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #293
Not as short as you want it to be. Too bad. I'm sure Skinner doesn't want to knock Autumn Apr 2016 #294
True enough, I'll manage. Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #295
It is very much a winner OP there are many democrats who suffer from Democratic Stockholm Syndrome Autumn Apr 2016 #296
The OP is yet another embarrassment in a long line Bobbie Jo Apr 2016 #301
The meaning "given" to that phrase here on DU means nothing. You can't change the meaning Autumn Apr 2016 #302
Yeah. ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #167
Deflecting definitions? frylock Apr 2016 #233
delfection of how Stockholm Syndrom was applied here on DU to the AA Community, won't work Sheepshank Apr 2016 #171
My post has nothing to do with that situation. RiverLover Apr 2016 #174
yes it did...you attempt to pretend the past didn't happen Sheepshank Apr 2016 #176
You honestly believe this? ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #177
The Democrats for the past 25-30 years have been acting republican, and we have to go RiverLover Apr 2016 #181
Well that answers my question ismnotwasm Apr 2016 #188
" established fantasy of incremental rearguard progress...." pat_k Apr 2016 #165
The Party of "Yes We Can" turned "No We Can't" very quickly with Hillary. RiverLover Apr 2016 #170
We can be realists, we can work within that construct Sheepshank Apr 2016 #178
You lost Renew Deal Apr 2016 #179
No not really. The Democratic Party loses with Third Way Dems leading us with RW policies RiverLover Apr 2016 #183
The voters have spoken Renew Deal Apr 2016 #195
Your call sign is "Renew Deal" and your supporting Hillary? Phlem Apr 2016 #185
We will all be supporting Hillary soon. Renew Deal Apr 2016 #193
Nice story bro. Phlem Apr 2016 #197
Good to know which side you're one Renew Deal Apr 2016 #200
That would be the non corrupt side. Phlem Apr 2016 #201
That's the problem Renew Deal Apr 2016 #204
By Your Definition!? Phlem Apr 2016 #206
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #205
Gooble-gobble. frylock Apr 2016 #236
The blind followers spoken of divert attention from the message... polichick Apr 2016 #180
No kidding. /nt RiverLover Apr 2016 #182
"It has NOTHING to do with RACE." Phlem Apr 2016 #184
Talk about a passive aggressive way ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #187
K&R quantumjunkie Apr 2016 #192
good article. I suppose the book "What's the matter with Kansas" is also bbgrunt Apr 2016 #207
You describe it so well. Thanks. RiverLover Apr 2016 #266
umadbro? stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #211
The Bernies.... MrWendel Apr 2016 #231
That's because the ones doing it KNOW ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #254
It's a dog whistle, for sure. wildeyed Apr 2016 #265
Yeah stay tuned.... MrWendel Apr 2016 #311
Has someone posted the jury results yet? Capt. Obvious Apr 2016 #235
I feel like this campaign season has deprogrammed me artislife Apr 2016 #241
I call bullshit. wildeyed Apr 2016 #246
Just another 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2016 #253
I wish there was a way wildeyed Apr 2016 #264
To fucking bad. Get over it. nt William769 Apr 2016 #249
Terrific article quantass Apr 2016 #261
The author really nailed it. Thanks quantass. RiverLover Apr 2016 #267
Wow. Was just talking about this phenomenon with my son. Duppers Apr 2016 #272
That's so great. I hope many people start talking it up to family & friends & coworkers. RiverLover Apr 2016 #274
Excellent Article RiverLover, thanks for sharing this. 2banon Apr 2016 #275
Mon plaisir, mon ami!! Ce n'était rien ;) RiverLover Apr 2016 #276
Au contraire , mon ami . il était très important et sur ​​ce point, 2banon Apr 2016 #280
"le bras dans le bras ensemble" - Arm & Arm we stand together! RiverLover Apr 2016 #286
The term "Stockholm Syndrome" is based on an assumption that is flat out wrong eridani Apr 2016 #289
K&R Autumn Apr 2016 #292
Quick Explanation PB57 Apr 2016 #299
Kick. JTFrog Apr 2016 #300
. stonecutter357 Apr 2016 #306
Load o' crap. johnp3907 Apr 2016 #310
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