2016 Postmortem

WhaTHellsgoingonhere

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16. No. And what makes you think he didn't start it? Or maybe you're point is, it had already begun.

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:13 PM

Apr 2016

Occupy started it, then it got moved along until Bernie said, "If no one else steps forward, then I will." And when no one else stepped forward (I think we were holding out for Warren), Bernie put it on PEDs. But the establishment, including MSM, has marginalized the revolution since Day 1. And Bernie, an old, obscure socialist from an overlooked state was their, i.e. the establishment and media, dream candidate. A target too easy to mock and ridicule they couldn't have cast a better character. But they underestimated the Revolution. They thought the kids had just showed up but the revolution had been underway for years.

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Why did Bernie Sanders believe he could start a political revolution in 10 months? [View all] asuhornets Apr 2016 OP

Shhh...it has been roiling for years nadinbrzezinski Apr 2016 #1

Bingo Armstead Apr 2016 #8

NB, you are always on point in this joint. dinkytron Apr 2016 #45

Much more succinctly than I or Billy Joel would have said it. Orsino Apr 2016 #47

+1 Unicorn Apr 2016 #60

I've been listening to "Brunch with Bernie" for YEARS lagomorph777 Apr 2016 #66

Yes, right along with the alien disclosure files anigbrowl May 2016 #105

Well we have had movements already nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #108

Yeah, in fact 'movements' are a staple of American political life anigbrowl May 2016 #109

And I always enjoy the attacks nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #110

K & R, good post. It is about electing Democrats at every level, this will bring change. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #2

Electing Democrats will do it? Just doing that? Ron Green Apr 2016 #84

How successful has Republicans getting elected has helped progressive ideas. Thinkingabout Apr 2016 #86

That depends on whether you're talking about Republicans with an (R) or a (D) Ron Green Apr 2016 #94

He did ibegurpard Apr 2016 #3

Bernie is the messenger for something that is reaching critical mass Armstead Apr 2016 #9

I hope so, I really do. eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #13

I agree with you. The majority of both Democrats and Republicans are sick and Cal33 Apr 2016 #51

Interesting, how come a majority of Democrats aren't voting for the "revolution" then? snooper2 Apr 2016 #64

Ah, the great prophecy anigbrowl May 2016 #106

There was a massive void to fill PowerToThePeople Apr 2016 #4

What don't you understand about the word "start?" morningfog Apr 2016 #5

Ok asuhornets Apr 2016 #18

You chose the word, what did you intend it to mean? morningfog Apr 2016 #19

I'm not asuhornets Apr 2016 #21

Cool. Then we are in agreement that your OP is bunk. morningfog Apr 2016 #56

that's makes no sense.. asuhornets Apr 2016 #67

Now that post makes no sense. When did I say Bernie is above criticism? morningfog Apr 2016 #70

Figure it out...You seem like a smart person...Maybe...eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #76

What don't you understand about the fixed election calendar? anigbrowl May 2016 #107

The rebellion against the Third Way corporatists... tokenlib Apr 2016 #6

The problem with your analogy is this asuhornets Apr 2016 #22

"Democrats"," former Democrats, Independents.. tokenlib Apr 2016 #32

You've got to be kidding! Clinton is popular among the Democrats? I understand that Cal33 Apr 2016 #57

The DNC did not trick me into voting for her. asuhornets Apr 2016 #59

OK, so are you saying that you have similar political views as Hillary? I certainly Cal33 Apr 2016 #72

I have very similiars views to those of Hillary, Bernie, and Elizabeth. asuhornets Apr 2016 #74

In some areas they might think alike. For instance, I don't think Hillary would nominate Cal33 Apr 2016 #79

He did start it. It still has a very long way to go The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2016 #7

Yeah... SheenaR Apr 2016 #10

So Hillary asuhornets Apr 2016 #36

Some of her voters probably decided based on Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #42

She can do what she wants SheenaR Apr 2016 #50

The revolution started in a lot less than 10 months. MgtPA Apr 2016 #11

Yes, and the large numbers of angry people were already there for decades, and Cal33 Apr 2016 #98

Dont look now, but he has started a revolution. Take your blinders off larkrake Apr 2016 #12

You appear to be clueless as to the amount of ANGER toward establishment IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #14

Like I said in a previous post: asuhornets Apr 2016 #23

Obama is well liked. Hillary, not so much. IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #26

The people that hate her are not part of her base...n/t asuhornets Apr 2016 #29

Awesome! So my support and efforts on behalf of Obama, IdaBriggs Apr 2016 #33

Your words: asuhornets Apr 2016 #35

Would-a, should-a ... NurseJackie Apr 2016 #15

Agreed.... asuhornets Apr 2016 #27

No. And what makes you think he didn't start it? Or maybe you're point is, it had already begun. WhaTHellsgoingonhere Apr 2016 #16

A real political revolution would have created a viable third party. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #17

Man, your signature is just full of assholery... TCJ70 Apr 2016 #24

I'm glad I could entertain you. nolawarlock Apr 2016 #25

thanks for the warning ibegurpard Apr 2016 #54

heheheheh nolawarlock Apr 2016 #55

Ego. DavidDvorkin Apr 2016 #20

You might be right. In four years, floriduck Apr 2016 #28

But he did take the DNC help asuhornets Apr 2016 #31

The help he needed most was not there at the beginning. 6 poorly timed debates. floriduck Apr 2016 #81

He raised over $160 million, where he hurt at?...eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #85

That money came from individual donations, certainly not from the DNC. Read above. floriduck Apr 2016 #87

Dumb question. The answer's within it. KPN Apr 2016 #30

Dumb answer...Bernie and Jane continues to bash the Democratic party, that they recently joined. asuhornets Apr 2016 #34

so will he take that evil corporate DNC money to retire his campaign debt? stay tuned nt msongs Apr 2016 #37

Excellent question.. asuhornets Apr 2016 #39

Can't stand the heat? frylock Apr 2016 #53

Of course I can ...what heat? asuhornets Apr 2016 #88

I dunno nuthin'. frylock Apr 2016 #90

lol...n/t asuhornets Apr 2016 #97

Nah. KPN Apr 2016 #100

I only worry that it will be difficult to find someone with the credibility Ed Suspicious Apr 2016 #38

Trust me asuhornets Apr 2016 #40

He's Idealistic runaway hero Apr 2016 #41

In Indiana last night, Sanders criticized Trump Eric J in MN Apr 2016 #43

Good...eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #44

He didn't start it. He's running hecause of it. Orsino Apr 2016 #46

It would have been even more helpful Proud Liberal Dem May 2016 #102

I think it's possible to not merely start a revolution in ten months, but in fact, win it. LanternWaste Apr 2016 #48

He has been building for 32 years. oldandhappy Apr 2016 #49

BUilding it where though--Vermont? asuhornets Apr 2016 #52

Building up his reputation as a politician of honesty and integrity. Just look up his Cal33 Apr 2016 #63

Maybe in Vermont...eom asuhornets Apr 2016 #89

Sounds like you would be supporting the candidate of NOPE. And I take it you don't think we NEED a Unicorn Apr 2016 #58

We do need a revolution... asuhornets Apr 2016 #62

because he did? nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #61

Where is it? asuhornets Apr 2016 #68

Hidden by the MSM's Wall-to-Wall Trump-fest. nt silvershadow Apr 2016 #69

10 years from now we'll all be asking "how he did it" instead of "why he believed" 0rganism Apr 2016 #65

He did start one. "Start" - key word. What else? snowy owl Apr 2016 #71

That's it... asuhornets Apr 2016 #75

You're confusing "start" with "complete". The political revolution is definitely begun. n/t lumberjack_jeff Apr 2016 #73

Did you miss OWS? grasswire Apr 2016 #77

Didn't miss it at all... asuhornets Apr 2016 #78

He had many people asking him to run. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #80

And he's still losing. nt nolawarlock Apr 2016 #93

Millions are listening to his message. HooptieWagon Apr 2016 #95

As so many Bernie fans have pointed out ... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #96

I am perfectly fine if his issues influence the party. nolawarlock May 2016 #101

It has taken years to have a Socialist run and threaten the status quo. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2016 #82

"And, it's being listened to by millions." asuhornets Apr 2016 #83

The whole thing says volumes about his true objectives. anotherproletariat Apr 2016 #91

He didn't start it, he joined it. artislife Apr 2016 #92

How many years did it take for conservatives to take over the Democratic Party? B Calm Apr 2016 #99

1932-1992. HooptieWagon May 2016 #103

The journey of 10,000 miles begins with one step. Any other questions? libdem4life May 2016 #104