2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Within 7 hrs, Jeff Bezos' WaPo Squeezes Out 4 Anti-Sanders Stories From 1 Tax Study [View all]kaleckim
(651 posts)"Documented experience within different countries, populations, tax structures and needs does not equate laterally with what would happen if we instituted this tomorrow, even if we could. I like the idea of single payer very much, but it's not going to happen overnight. Sorry. It just isn't."
First off, no one is arguing that it would happen overnight. That's a straw man argument and you know it. You cannot get something until you lay out the vision. This is true of every single movement of historic importance. Not a single one lacked a long term vision that wasn't "realistic" in the short term. Secondly, while it is true that single payer working in a particular country wouldn't necessarily work here, single payer or socialized medicine has worked in EVERY developed country, regardless of differences in culture, taxation, etc. Every country, in multiple continents, with varying political, tax, and ideological contexts, has shown it to be superior to our system. What you are arguing is basically that what works EVERYWHERE ELSE cannot work here. Simply amazing that "Democrat" is the one making this argument.
"If honest people can disagree, are there many outside of the "Physicians for a National Health Program" who do? That would be good to see."
Yeah, again, every developed country on Earth, endless studies, and countless international organizations have shown this. Even the damn World Bank, the WHO, Oxfam and the UN has done in depth studies on public health care systems, and what happens when they are gutted and privatized.
What exactly does your party stand for?