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kaleckim

(651 posts)
30. Give me a break
Thu May 12, 2016, 12:06 AM
May 2016

"Documented experience within different countries, populations, tax structures and needs does not equate laterally with what would happen if we instituted this tomorrow, even if we could. I like the idea of single payer very much, but it's not going to happen overnight. Sorry. It just isn't."

First off, no one is arguing that it would happen overnight. That's a straw man argument and you know it. You cannot get something until you lay out the vision. This is true of every single movement of historic importance. Not a single one lacked a long term vision that wasn't "realistic" in the short term. Secondly, while it is true that single payer working in a particular country wouldn't necessarily work here, single payer or socialized medicine has worked in EVERY developed country, regardless of differences in culture, taxation, etc. Every country, in multiple continents, with varying political, tax, and ideological contexts, has shown it to be superior to our system. What you are arguing is basically that what works EVERYWHERE ELSE cannot work here. Simply amazing that "Democrat" is the one making this argument.

"If honest people can disagree, are there many outside of the "Physicians for a National Health Program" who do? That would be good to see."

Yeah, again, every developed country on Earth, endless studies, and countless international organizations have shown this. Even the damn World Bank, the WHO, Oxfam and the UN has done in depth studies on public health care systems, and what happens when they are gutted and privatized.

What exactly does your party stand for?

Get use to stories like this. Wellstone ruled May 2016 #1
"Corporate Owned News" KansDem May 2016 #7
What really sucks is, Wellstone ruled May 2016 #12
Ghost writers on the payroll? Autumn May 2016 #2
Now that's a scary thought. RiverLover May 2016 #4
Sanders is doing the same thing Corporate666 May 2016 #8
Yeah where? Brockshits blue nation review? Con the Record? Autumn May 2016 #14
How can you not know where... Corporate666 May 2016 #18
That would explain why the talking points hit all over the place at the same time. Autumn May 2016 #15
I contend it's more evil. Only a Democrat will be able to cut Social Security. Ed Suspicious May 2016 #28
I prefer "Winkles Out 4 Anti-Sanders Stories" myself MisterP May 2016 #24
And, regarding the "18 trillion in debt" attack pat_k May 2016 #3
Thanks for sharing this here. RiverLover May 2016 #11
Go Bernie liberal from boston May 2016 #16
Fucking Asshole. There's a special circle of hell for these types of dirtbags. nt CentralCoaster May 2016 #5
So 9 more hours to get 12 more negative stories Kall May 2016 #6
Yeah, I was just thinking that they're slacking. frylock May 2016 #17
The Washington Post is one of the best newspapers in America. Cali_Democrat May 2016 #9
Yes, well the gravy train people stick together. RiverLover May 2016 #10
You know the owner. Jeff Bezos, is a Libertarian, right? chascarrillo May 2016 #19
.... Cali_Democrat May 2016 #20
Yes, as you stated, he has donated money to Republican Senator Slade Gorton. Good find. -nt- chascarrillo May 2016 #25
What does any of that kaleckim May 2016 #29
What did we used to call them on DU? The unquotable rag? vintx May 2016 #27
How dare they criticize Sanders! hrmjustin May 2016 #13
And within hours Camp Bansalot oozes out dozens of OPs running with the stories. hobbit709 May 2016 #21
They must be getting very, very nervous. Good!..n/t monmouth4 May 2016 #22
I'm still looking for a factual refutation of the study. Sparkly May 2016 #23
Give me a break kaleckim May 2016 #30
When WaPo does this, the threads oldandhappy May 2016 #26
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