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Response to Sheepshank (Original post)

Sat Jun 4, 2016, 12:10 PM

18. I think the Democratic Party

is rapidly approaching that point of no return, and I think it's deliberate.

Bernie? I want him to keep going. I don't agree with your assessment of his supposed actions. I don't want him to bow out.

If the point comes when he needs to bow out, which will happen, if at all, at some point during the convention, I'm sure he will do it gracefully. And I'm sure he will endorse HRC. I don't agree with you that those are the "right" things to do, but I understand why he will do so.

I'm also sure that he cannot, and he knows he cannot, "unite his constituency behind Hillary." His "constituency" supports him because of where he is on the issues. As he's said all along, it's not about him. The political revolution continues whether or not he wins the nomination, and that revolution working to, among other things, remove neo-liberals from power is not going to suddenly "unite" behind a neo-liberal.

For so much of his "contingency," it's not about the nominee, nor is it about the GE. It's about taking the party back from neo-liberals or abandoning it altogether. They will either stay to continue the fight, which, again, does not include uniting behind neo-liberals, or they will abandon the party.

I do agree that we have passed the point of no return, when it comes to uniting with neo-liberals, anyway. And that is not about Sanders, and not something that is under his control.

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