2016 Postmortem

Garrett78

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6. And my point is that label isn't being thrown around nearly as much as some perceive.

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:58 PM

Jun 2016

Issac Bailey certainly isn't labeling anyone a racist, in spite of what defensive reactions to the article (and similar articles) might suggest. And that's true of most DU posts, as well. Pointing out that POC are key to winning the Democratic Party nomination is not akin to labeling anyone a racist. Not even close.

The question becomes, "How does a diverse coalition (that reflects the diverse Democratic Party electorate) get formed to bring about broad systemic change?" Failure to accomplish that task could lead to a long-standing divide, which will result in a devastating outcome that makes the goal of systemic change unachievable. That's the crux of Mr. Bailey's article (as well as similar articles). It's not about labeling anyone a racist. When people are defensive, they aren't receptive.

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Let's try this again. Re: "...the Democrats' Racial Rift" [View all] Garrett78 Jun 2016 OP

Get the POC to hate the most liberal people. Not because it makes sense for a POC. Ask yourself brewens Jun 2016 #1

It's not about hating "the most liberal people." Garrett78 Jun 2016 #2

Again, liberals and progressives are getting the heat forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #4

I find it in bad form to tell a person what his or her priorities should be.... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #7

It's like you literally didn't read a word of the OP. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #9

I just read a post in bravenak's thread, which exemplifies what I'm talking about. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #14

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #20

So, you weren't addressing the message, just attacking the messenger. Got it. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #25

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #27

I think the perception of accusations of racism don't match the reality. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #30

You just made up a bunch of nonsense about us black posters bravenak Jun 2016 #35

right? who has time to do all that prayin rbrnmw Jun 2016 #46

I love how people invent stories about us and try to spread them around like the gospel bravenak Jun 2016 #47

I just don't understand that thinking at all rbrnmw Jun 2016 #52

I wish it would stop bravenak Jun 2016 #62

Any excuse to play my favorite faux black Panther track from back in the day Number23 Jun 2016 #56

Y'all hungry?? Number23 Jun 2016 #55

bean pie rbrnmw Jun 2016 #58

I haven't see a bean pie since I left LA!!! bravenak Jun 2016 #59

My mother was a Panther in the day but she never took to the NOI. Said that they were much Number23 Jun 2016 #60

I met a guy once and liked him. Until he tried to 'convert' me to the Nation of Islam. bravenak Jun 2016 #61

Hey ... Leave me out of your self-victimization. ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #36

I think you may have covered every base with regard to the following: etherealtruth Jun 2016 #34

Don't forget, make up stuff about black posters all while screaming about how the Nation of Islam Number23 Jun 2016 #54

I was replying to reply #1. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #29

I was just echoing what you wrote. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #31

I read the OP and many others on the same subject. I found the whole meme that brewens Jun 2016 #44

"Bernie supporters were somehow all old privileged white guys laughable. Classic projection." Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #45

I get suspicious of those who throw around the "racist" label One Black Sheep Jun 2016 #3

And my point is that label isn't being thrown around nearly as much as some perceive. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #6

I'm an African American jamese777 Jun 2016 #5

I'm probably going to get myself in trouble here, but.... theboss Jun 2016 #8

Which is a point Mr. Bailey made. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #10

I read about half of that to be honest theboss Jun 2016 #11

I think The Bible might be a tad longer. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #18

Most of Atheists got that way *because* we read the bible! ieoeja Jun 2016 #21

So here's the real deal - will the Democrats be safer running a Conservadem campaign or something highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #28

You STILL miss the point ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #37

No you miss my point. Hillary is not a safe choice at all. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #39

Wow GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #49

I do not accept your name calling. Believe that what I said is perfectly true. highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #65

In the 2008 primaries white liberals supported Obama over Clinton mythology Jun 2016 #19

I think Sanders' strategists made a mistake in crunching the numbers. ieoeja Jun 2016 #23

Some did, yes. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #26

Rep. Keith Ellison was one of the first to sound the alarm that Trump could be the GOP nom Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #12

Anyone who believes that Trump's rise is in response to anything but Obama's presidency is Number23 Jun 2016 #57

It seems obvious, doesn't it? Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #63

Trump's rise and The Tea Party's rise both undoubtedly have much to do with us having a black POTUS. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #64

I wonder how things might have been different if Sanders had embraced Obama's accomplishments. randome Jun 2016 #13

Embracing the bankster bailouts, several wars of choice, "free" trade, corporate ACA, etc. Romulox Jun 2016 #15

Without a positive message -only a negative one- he may have undermined his own campaign. randome Jun 2016 #16

Hillary didn't campaign on the "positives" of war in Libya, TPP, etc. She just flip-flopped. nt Romulox Jun 2016 #17

"more ignorant about racial matters than they may think" applies to... pat_k Jun 2016 #22

The point about white millennials is that they're perceived as being less ignorant than they are. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #24

Thanks for highlighting the linked post. pat_k Jun 2016 #33

A very well thought out and presented post Spacedog1973 Jun 2016 #32

Don't sweat it. It's not true, and third way douchebags know it's not true. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #38

What's not true? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #40

It's not true that the progressive movement tapped into by Bernie is racist. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #41

Who said it was? Garrett78 Jun 2016 #42

"Have some made accusations of racism? Yes." lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #43

That really misses the point, especially out of context. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #50

"voting as an act of performative virtue" This sums up modern "progressivism" quite perfectly. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #48

We have had uniters in this country and we have had dividers. peace13 Jun 2016 #51

I don't think Clinton doing much better among POC was the result of a talking point. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #53

These are interesting reads. LWolf Jun 2016 #66

This: chervilant Jun 2016 #67

So do I. nt LWolf Jun 2016 #68

+1000 blackspade Jun 2016 #69