2016 Postmortem

George II

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39. You "fight" for what can be accomplished, and win more often than not. If you fight for the....

Reply to Scuba (Original post)

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:43 AM

Jun 2016

....impossible you don't win at all.

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Clinton Democrats Claim To Support Health Care As A Right, But Oppose Universal Healthcare [View all] Scuba Jun 2016 OP

Well...it was "HillaryCare" before it was "ObamaCare"... TCJ70 Jun 2016 #1

No it was the heritage foundation care first, until Mutt Romney got it passed in Massachusetts. JRLeft Jun 2016 #37

Single payer doesn't equal universal care dsc Jun 2016 #2

Who said it did? Scuba Jun 2016 #6

the op and those nurses for some dsc Jun 2016 #8

No, they don't say that. You're inferring that and seem to be trying to discredit the nurses. Scuba Jun 2016 #17

they say she voted AGAINST UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE dsc Jun 2016 #20

Where do they say Hillary voted against universal health care? Please provide a link. Scuba Jun 2016 #22

the headlline of your own OP dsc Jun 2016 #27

That's the headline writer at CommonDreams. What they voted against is ... Scuba Jun 2016 #29

ITS IN THE HEADLINE. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #33

I sometimes wonder if people who advocate for "single payer" really know what it is. George II Jun 2016 #48

Who said it did? You did! Lord Magus Jun 2016 #45

I did not write the headline, which is the only incidence of "universal healthcare" being used. Scuba Jun 2016 #47

EVERYTHING *must* have a market solution tk2kewl Jun 2016 #3

Bingo nt lostnfound Jun 2016 #12

It's going to happen at the state level. Colorado is voting an a single-payer referendum in November Chathamization Jun 2016 #4

Hillary is, and always has been, in favor of universal healthcare. This whole article is a lie. DanTex Jun 2016 #5

So the Clinton delegates actually voted FOR universal healthcare in the platform? Scuba Jun 2016 #7

The very article you posted points out that the platform endorses health care as a right. DanTex Jun 2016 #21

So it's not an assault rifle, just a semi-automatic. Got it. Scuba Jun 2016 #23

What are you talking about? DanTex Jun 2016 #26

"Single-payer," "universal healthcare" and "Medicare for All" are used interchangably by ... Scuba Jun 2016 #28

Nobody with a clue uses "single-payer" and "universal healthcare" interchangeably. Nobody. DanTex Jun 2016 #36

They may be used interchangeably by many, but they're not actually interchangeable. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #38

We are a long way from health care as a right... Orsino Jun 2016 #9

The title is misleading but the general idea is correct Mass Jun 2016 #10

Best reply. Thank you. Scuba Jun 2016 #42

Bee-Ess article! People voted for HRC's Platform on Healthcare to build on Obamacare Her Sister Jun 2016 #11

We can get universal coverage without single-payer. It's a false dichotomy. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #13

We don't need universal coverage. We need universal care. Scuba Jun 2016 #15

Coverage is not the same thing as care. It's a lie told all too often. arcane1 Jun 2016 #41

Seriously? deathrind Jun 2016 #14

The idea that we should build on Obamacare My Good Babushka Jun 2016 #16

I've never heard anyone articulate what "building on Obamacare" is supposed to mean. Scuba Jun 2016 #18

then you apparently haven't been paying attention dsc Jun 2016 #24

Adding a public option; dawg Jun 2016 #35

And casual Fridays. We're against casual Fridays, too. LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #19

Single payer, not universal frazzled Jun 2016 #25

Not my headline. See post #10 ... Scuba Jun 2016 #43

I agree, but it comes down to "for profit" healthcare vs single payer dmosh42 Jun 2016 #30

More from CommonNonsense. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #31

. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #32

Single payer and universal healthcare are not necessarily the same. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #34

You "fight" for what can be accomplished, and win more often than not. If you fight for the.... George II Jun 2016 #39

Isn't Obamacare the insurance industry choice? jalan48 Jun 2016 #40

Ka-ching! We have a winner! Scuba Jun 2016 #44

So that's why the insurance industry so vehemently opposes it? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #46