2016 Postmortem

zipplewrath

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21. Not exactly

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 02:52 PM

Jul 2016

Trade must be negotiated to address labor and the exchange of goods and capital. Our trade treaties no longer do that and in fact are almost totally focused on eliminating restrictions to the free flow of capital and goods. We can have trade, but we need to ensure that the work forces are treated with equal concern. And of course when the two labor systems CAN'T be balanced, that's when tariffs come into play.

The objection to the TPP is that it doesn't protect labor OR the environment anywhere near the protections for intellectual property.

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So we can't be opposed to the TPP 'cause it's Obama's thing, but ... [View all] Scuba Jul 2016 OP

Not getting the connection to TPP. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2016 #1

You can be opposed to whatever you want to be. Why do people start an argument with a false base? seabeyond Jul 2016 #2

Thank you for clarifying what I was thinking. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2016 #11

:-P NurseJackie Jul 2016 #16

My TPP ambivalence bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #3

It's unbalanced zipplewrath Jul 2016 #6

Free immigration only bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #7

Exactly zipplewrath Jul 2016 #8

I'm with you on that bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #12

International regulation zipplewrath Jul 2016 #13

Demand All Nations obey American Standards? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #14

Common standards zipplewrath Jul 2016 #15

Yet bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #17

Not exactly zipplewrath Jul 2016 #21

So if TPP were kept intact, but labor/environment protection added bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #22

Basically zipplewrath Jul 2016 #23

Why not actually work to improve labor standards worldwide? bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #24

As I said zipplewrath Jul 2016 #25

Fair enough. Thank you. bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #28

The TPP can't be revised or altered now Arazi Jul 2016 #30

God forbid Toyota or Airbus build a plant in rural Mississippi or Alabama. Hoyt Jul 2016 #27

I disagree bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #29

You are far from alone! yallerdawg Jul 2016 #26

How to simplify healthcare WDIM Jul 2016 #4

Not that simple in reality, which is far, far more complicated ehrnst Jul 2016 #5

Its not that difficult almost every other country WDIM Jul 2016 #9

We are not every other country. ehrnst Jul 2016 #10

Yah, we are exceptional. truebluegreen Jul 2016 #18

Good one. George Eliot Jul 2016 #20

Right. The Kochs, the lobbyists, and the CEOS. Got it. George Eliot Jul 2016 #19