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Thu Nov 17, 2016, 02:27 PM

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Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]	scheming daemons	Nov 2016	OP
While I agree with you...	LP2K12	Nov 2016	#1
Maybe it would be better to be inclusive	Duckhunter935	Nov 2016	#2
That's like telling someone their tire is flat	rzemanfl	Nov 2016	#3
They attacked. And don't you forget it. They attacked and blew the whole fucking thing up!	boston bean	Nov 2016	#4
Just pointing out again what throwing away votes results in.	yallerdawg	Nov 2016	#16
Your suggestion got us dubya and trump. Time to dump those voters who are spoilers	Lil Missy	Nov 2016	#43
Specious reasoning.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#5
Yeah, none of that competent/smart/accomplished shit for us, this time.	Paladin	Nov 2016	#9
Obama was all those things, AND inspiring.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#13
Agreed. Trump was following Reagan's lead with his own simple slogan.	guillaumeb	Nov 2016	#37
A bad emotional appeal beat a bloodless technocratic appeal.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#72
I think part of the problem is that the corporate media has been "defining" the Clintons for years.	guillaumeb	Nov 2016	#94
They had a choice, and they used it selfishly and stupidly and immorally	frazzled	Nov 2016	#12
It's the candidate's job to convince voters.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#18
Bull	frazzled	Nov 2016	#20
I support Dems making just arguments that can win.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#21
No, your arguments and language show you clearly do not	frazzled	Nov 2016	#23
Do you have a substantive response to the post?	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#27
There was plenty of substance in those responses. And your same empty rhetoric was used	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#41
"Bull." is not substance. And independents didn't beat Al Gore.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#48
I clearly remember "independents" being interviewed during that election.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#50
What are you going to do, punish the voters for disagreeing with you?	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#58
But she had already convinced the voters. She was winning, and that's	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#67
Clinton stayed well past inevitability in 2008 as well.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#69
Your statement is not even true and it is out of context. But that is the hallmark	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#73
Well, no. Clinton was widely criticized for overstaying in 2008.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#75
This is self-serving and out of context again, the hallmark of the Clinton bashers.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#81
So we agree Hillary stayed in way past viability in 2008.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#85
This same tired rhetoric was used about Al Gore. He was picked to death, including	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#91
Gore was robbed by Republicans and the Supreme Court.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#93
Oh, absolutely correct that it was the Bush bro Florida connection and the Supremes	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#99
I doubt progressive purity drove 3rd party votes.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#102
Great points. We know that Obama is a tough act to follow and is almost a once-in-a-lifetime	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#105
"Anyone else would have been slaughtered". ... no.. one word... Biden	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#63
Yeah Stein really convinced me breaking bread with Putin and Trumps man Flynn in Russia....	Historic NY	Nov 2016	#38
HRC was the Democratic nominee.	Lil Missy	Nov 2016	#106
"That was the choice. It was a choice for the nation, not for your..."	jmg257	Nov 2016	#25
oh ye gods	DemonGoddess	Nov 2016	#30
We're back to voting for the candidate we want to have a beer with	mcar	Nov 2016	#35
arrrrghhh	DemonGoddess	Nov 2016	#36
in trumps case...	Javaman	Nov 2016	#47
At least Hillary drinks beer!	greatauntoftriplets	Nov 2016	#49
I'd love to have a beer or a glass (or two) of wine with Hillary	mcar	Nov 2016	#66
That's a rather radical reading of the post.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#101
In hindsight Ms Clinton had some obstacles to overcome	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Nov 2016	#95
Ah, but they bask in the glow of the pure fire of their anger as it burns down advances made....	Hekate	Nov 2016	#6
EXACTLY. thank you n/t	DemonGoddess	Nov 2016	#31
To those who voted third party instead of Clinton because of principles I say....	hrmjustin	Nov 2016	#7
Sorry, but I'm not putting this one on the "third party" candidates.	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#8
No owns "independent" votes.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#28
Ahem, an "independent" was running as a Democrat and did nothing but	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#46
Oh dear. Sorry, but no, it's not Sanders' fault either.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#54
Yes, that bandwagon is roling now!	HassleCat	Nov 2016	#57
Attacking Clinton from March/April when he had no clear path to victory	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#60
And how did we respond to these "attacks?"	HassleCat	Nov 2016	#71
It is not ragging on someone to notice that they have no clear path to victory.	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#78
I know, right? It can't be that Clinton just lost.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#68
Well, they did stick to their guns.	leftofcool	Nov 2016	#61
The margins show exactly what happened, and the third party voters	R B Garr	Nov 2016	#44
Made possible only by the fact that the Democrat nominee...	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#52
308,000 registered Democrats in Florida 2000 election voted for Bush	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#53
No one ever brings this up?	Buzz Clik	Nov 2016	#62
I was 9 then, but in university we studied the 2000 elections and I see so much "Nader as spoiler"	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#65
And this year voters left the top space blank.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#79
I wonder how many Registered Democrats voted Trump in the swings?	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#82
Found a few anecdotes that may have happened, but nothing more.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#89
I know only 4 people here in London who voted Trump. All 4 voted against Hillary	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#90
I was as wrong about Trump as you.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#92
The Average US-dwelling American has no idea how much the US foreign policy with the constant	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#96
Yes, Bernie gets his terminology wrong.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#100
scheming daemons, I read and see what you're saying .....	LenaBaby61	Nov 2016	#10
Even worse	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#11
Ding! Ding! Ding!	Raster	Nov 2016	#15
I haven't seen a state where 20% voted for Trump	SickOfTheOnePct	Nov 2016	#19
Because they're racists! At least in Michigan, I know several	Pathwalker	Nov 2016	#22
this	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#83
And if my grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon.	longship	Nov 2016	#14
What if we had simply just switched nominees?	InAbLuEsTaTe	Nov 2016	#17
I would blame ALL the people who didn't vote for her, not just 3rd party voters.	jmg257	Nov 2016	#24
yep, MILLIONS of Democrats, including my fellow PoC, stayed home	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#45
It's the IDEA of 3d parties that enrages authoritarians.	DirkGently	Nov 2016	#97
Agree - nitpicking everywhere but where the real problem lies. Ah well. nt	jmg257	Nov 2016	#98
I blame Quatar for not hacking Trump's email.	Wilms	Nov 2016	#26
Good Point!	sfwriter	Nov 2016	#29
At least they voted. Showed up fulfilled their responsibility.	SQUEE	Nov 2016	#32
"But...subtract one Kadem..."	kenfrequed	Nov 2016	#33
Yes	mcar	Nov 2016	#34
Stein/Johnson voters are added to my basket of dimwit deplorables.	oasis	Nov 2016	#39
Be honest	Omaha Steve	Nov 2016	#40
good luck getting 50% of Libertarians to vote for Hillary	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#42
Let's not forget that they're even further to the right of Republicans on the Economy.	HughBeaumont	Nov 2016	#56
K&R	CajunBlazer	Nov 2016	#51
I'm getting a little tired of this.	HassleCat	Nov 2016	#55
this!!!	Grey Lemercier	Nov 2016	#59
I detest these people. I really do. Look where we are now.	onecaliberal	Nov 2016	#64
Most of those that voted for a third party...	Else You Are Mad	Nov 2016	#70
How the hell does adding half of Johnson voters change anything?	DemocraticWing	Nov 2016	#74
Exactly.	Else You Are Mad	Nov 2016	#77
And switch some votes from Democrats.	HassleCat	Nov 2016	#76
There is a problem with the whole logic of this.	Scruffy1	Nov 2016	#80
Because every snowflake is special.	NurseJackie	Nov 2016	#84
"Shit in one hand, and Wish in the other...."	BlueProgressive	Nov 2016	#86
So how are you so sure some DU	INdemo	Nov 2016	#87
I didn't say any DU members did.	scheming daemons	Nov 2016	#88
I don't see libertarians (T party Jr.) voting Hillary	Omaha Steve	Nov 2016	#103
Meh. It's the hundreds of thousands of registered Democrats that didn't bother to vote that we	progressoid	Nov 2016	#104

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