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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]DirkGently
(12,151 posts)69. Clinton stayed well past inevitability in 2008 as well.
She made some very dark remark about remembering Bobby Kennedy, which a lot of people took to mean we should bear in mind Obama might be assassinated, since there was no other logic to what she said.
BRANDON, S.D. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton defended staying in the Democratic nominating contest on Friday by pointing out that her husband had not wrapped up the nomination until June 1992, adding, We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California.
Her remarks were met with quick criticism from the campaign of Senator Barack Obama, and within hours of making them Mrs. Clinton expressed regret, saying, The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy, referring to the recent diagnosis of Senator Edward M. Kennedys brain tumor. She added, And I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive.
Her remarks were met with quick criticism from the campaign of Senator Barack Obama, and within hours of making them Mrs. Clinton expressed regret, saying, The Kennedys have been much on my mind the last days because of Senator Kennedy, referring to the recent diagnosis of Senator Edward M. Kennedys brain tumor. She added, And I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/24/us/politics/24clinton.html
June? She was toast well before then.
And yet Obama won, by a lot, with the votes of a lot of people who weren't interested in Clinton.
No one loses a campaign except the candidates.
Sorry, but there's just no one else to blame.
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Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]
scheming daemons
Nov 2016
OP
They attacked. And don't you forget it. They attacked and blew the whole fucking thing up!
boston bean
Nov 2016
#4
Your suggestion got us dubya and trump. Time to dump those voters who are spoilers
Lil Missy
Nov 2016
#43
I think part of the problem is that the corporate media has been "defining" the Clintons for years.
guillaumeb
Nov 2016
#94
There was plenty of substance in those responses. And your same empty rhetoric was used
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#41
Your statement is not even true and it is out of context. But that is the hallmark
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#73
This is self-serving and out of context again, the hallmark of the Clinton bashers.
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#81
This same tired rhetoric was used about Al Gore. He was picked to death, including
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#91
Oh, absolutely correct that it was the Bush bro Florida connection and the Supremes
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#99
Great points. We know that Obama is a tough act to follow and is almost a once-in-a-lifetime
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#105
Yeah Stein really convinced me breaking bread with Putin and Trumps man Flynn in Russia....
Historic NY
Nov 2016
#38
Ah, but they bask in the glow of the pure fire of their anger as it burns down advances made....
Hekate
Nov 2016
#6
To those who voted third party instead of Clinton because of principles I say....
hrmjustin
Nov 2016
#7
It is not ragging on someone to notice that they have no clear path to victory.
R B Garr
Nov 2016
#78
I was 9 then, but in university we studied the 2000 elections and I see so much "Nader as spoiler"
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#65
I know only 4 people here in London who voted Trump. All 4 voted against Hillary
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#90
The Average US-dwelling American has no idea how much the US foreign policy with the constant
Grey Lemercier
Nov 2016
#96
I would blame ALL the people who didn't vote for her, not just 3rd party voters.
jmg257
Nov 2016
#24
Let's not forget that they're even further to the right of Republicans on the Economy.
HughBeaumont
Nov 2016
#56
Meh. It's the hundreds of thousands of registered Democrats that didn't bother to vote that we
progressoid
Nov 2016
#104