2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Switch Jill Stein votes to Clinton, and just half of Gary Johnson votes, and here's what you get: [View all]R B Garr
(16,950 posts)of the "independent" arguments. Everything is taken grossly out of context and distorted so you can legitimize the destruction. Clinton was closely competitive until the end in 2008, and she basically won that popular vote. This year was not the same situation at all. She was the clear and consistent frontrunner and she had to muzzle herself so as not to alienate Sanders voters.
What's funny about your claim of "no one loses a campaign except the candidates" is all the phony arguments here about Clinton stealing the election from Sanders, but in Clinton's GE loss, the "independents" don't even take that into consideration. Clinton's loss is all on her.
Seriously, there is precedent with the 2000 election and now. Two perfectly good candidates thrown out for the likes of Bush and Trump. Instead of Al Gore's environmental policies, we got Bush's war. Clinton wanted to expand on Obama's policies like every Democratic administration should do, and she was dumped on for being from New York where Wall Street is. What a shame. edit: and now you have a billionaire in charge when all the "independents" did was condemn billionaires -- more out of context messages from that crowd.