2016 Postmortem

Zing Zing Zingbah

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15. The sexism makes all the difference

Thu Nov 17, 2016, 08:31 PM

Nov 2016

I know people who just think a woman should not be president and some of these people are women. It doesn't matter how good she is. She is a woman. I think that's why they cling to those dumb excuses for not voting for her because it sounds better than saying the only reason they didn't vote for her was because she was a woman. Oh... and the other reason would be because she is pro-choice. There are tons of anti-choice people that only vote for someone who says that are against abortion. Nothing else matters to them. I find it amazing because abortion has been legal for like 40 years. I don't think it has really disrupted their lives much at all.

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Something is wrong with the Democratic Party [View all] malaise Nov 2016 OP

I woulds have agreed with you except for the 2016 campaign. napi21 Nov 2016 #1

He was rejected malaise Nov 2016 #2

So you don't like Bernies approach to politics nore Hillary. JustW do you think napi21 Nov 2016 #3

Of course I like Bernie's economic policies malaise Nov 2016 #5

The problem started when too many of our politicians started taking Wall Street and big corporate Dustlawyer Nov 2016 #27

And the same is true everywhere malaise Nov 2016 #29

Of course, Reagan destroyed the unions WhiteTara Nov 2016 #36

Barney Frank took Wall Street money to win, and then wrote "Dodd-Frank" (nt) ehrnst Nov 2016 #57

Bernie's approach to politics? leftofcool Nov 2016 #37

he started at 15, then 12 now 10, he will get 25 cents raise Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #43

So where would we end up Uponthegears Nov 2016 #55

It's not as though we'd have won more votes by keeping it down to 12. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #79

No he wasn't oberliner Nov 2016 #94

I dont agree with your premise VMA131Marine Nov 2016 #4

If that's the problem marylandblue Nov 2016 #6

Nothing seems to appeal to them more than racist dog whistles. VMA131Marine Nov 2016 #8

They aren't very progressive people treestar Nov 2016 #31

1! AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #62

Yes, this is the problem. LisaM Nov 2016 #24

Agree, Dems should double down on a metro strategy, IMO radius777 Nov 2016 #87

Yep. Lunabell Nov 2016 #7

Jesus, the way some people talk you would think there wasn't one working class person boston bean Nov 2016 #9

Interesting how some people talk like AA and Latinos and women are not the working class. SunSeeker Nov 2016 #28

Don't you know by now that only white people work? leftofcool Nov 2016 #38

"Working class" was the biggest dog whistle this election season. Nt Quayblue Nov 2016 #60

i'm so tired of blaming the democratic party. DesertFlower Nov 2016 #10

I haven't examined the data myself but folks in the media said that malaise Nov 2016 #11

i've heard that too, but can't imagine it DesertFlower Nov 2016 #12

The sexism makes all the difference Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2016 #15

I know a lot of these people treestar Nov 2016 #33

I don't think but a fraction believed they were voting "for" racism. DirkGently Nov 2016 #19

they voted for a blatant racist and sexist and they support him. bettyellen Nov 2016 #61

No one has anything in common with Hillary, either. DirkGently Nov 2016 #67

Your sexism is duly noted. Why am I not surprised you are a man? n/t duffyduff Nov 2016 #68

I certainly do! Many working women and gay men can relate.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #74

I think the media is confusing overlapping constituencies of who were the "voters" BumRushDaShow Nov 2016 #21

millions did... Macomb County MI is a perfect example Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #53

It's the triad of hate: racism, sexism, and homophobia n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Nov 2016 #13

exactly. i thought when DesertFlower Nov 2016 #14

Whites voted for Trump in the same numbers they did for Romney. DirkGently Nov 2016 #16

Years of looking at a black president simmered in those groups and was fed by Trump. ehrnst Nov 2016 #20

here's an interesting article. DesertFlower Nov 2016 #23

It is also about celebrity worship. That's how Arnold became governor of California. nt tblue37 Nov 2016 #45

arnold was sane and rational. trump DesertFlower Nov 2016 #46

Seconded. Principles matter. DirkGently Nov 2016 #17

Well said malaise Nov 2016 #30

I agree with this. closeupready Nov 2016 #83

Hmm. You mean abandon the coalitions that have made Democrats stray from the real reason we formed? ehrnst Nov 2016 #18

WOW. Progressivism equals "white male concerns?" DirkGently Nov 2016 #22

I keep hearing that we need to get back to "progressive" principles ehrnst Nov 2016 #25

Exactly! Thank you! boston bean Nov 2016 #32

Economic issues are universal. "Centrists" are not progressives. DirkGently Nov 2016 #34

When "true progressive" comes at the expense of Reproductive health, and LGBTQ rights ehrnst Nov 2016 #56

Ridiculous. Economic and social issues are not in competition. DirkGently Nov 2016 #65

1 progressoid Nov 2016 #82

1 jack_krass Nov 2016 #88

Precisely malaise Nov 2016 #26

Holy crap where does this come from? DirkGently Nov 2016 #35

It's the Michael Moore naive belief we need to reach these white dudes. duffyduff Nov 2016 #64

Cultural and economic progress aren't mutually exclusive. DirkGently Nov 2016 #66

Let me guess--you voted for Sanders. duffyduff Nov 2016 #69

Who in the world are you replying to? DirkGently Nov 2016 #86

Did You Know ColoradoCare Failed otohara Nov 2016 #84

Thank You Kathy M Nov 2016 #89

So we need a purge? yeah that will help... Demsrule86 Nov 2016 #39

I believe the OP is talking policies, not people. DirkGently Nov 2016 #40

More b.s. You don't have a clue what happened. duffyduff Nov 2016 #41

Face this one fact malaise Nov 2016 #47

EC is what counts to win election . Kathy M Nov 2016 #90

Agree 1000% hueymahl Nov 2016 #42

When the Democrats gave up New Deal and Great Society principles to the DLC and Blue Dogs, Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #44

so how do you explain Feingold loss ? JI7 Nov 2016 #48

I know ... they're still scratching their heads over that. But in time, NurseJackie Nov 2016 #50

Koch brother fucking. Scott Walker. Wisconsin people like getting fucked by Republicans. Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #52

and hillary had fbi, kgb, whore media attacking her JI7 Nov 2016 #70

what does that have to do with Wisconsin slitting its own throat with Walker and Johnson? Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #77

Same voters in the same election. Can't have it both ways n/t kcr Nov 2016 #72

WI had three opportunities to get ride of that fucker Walker and get rid of Johnson, who they don't Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #76

And that is the absolute truth malaise Nov 2016 #49

I think they enjoy losing. Cobalt Violet Nov 2016 #51

Look at my Buffalo Bills. There's the proof of a losing culture Feeling the Bern Nov 2016 #54

you think Feingold wanted to lose ? JI7 Nov 2016 #78

Agree Kathy M Nov 2016 #93

Yes. LWolf Nov 2016 #58

That simple malaise Nov 2016 #59

No, it's bullshit, because lots of liberal and progressive candidates and issues have lost Fast Walker 52 Nov 2016 #81

Agree Kathy M Nov 2016 #91

Something's wrong with the world. gulliver Nov 2016 #63

Swimming against the tide is hard work BootinUp Nov 2016 #71

K&R n/t denbot Nov 2016 #73

I have had it with this language of going back, taking back BainsBane Nov 2016 #75

Democrats used to defend workers malaise Nov 2016 #80

Agree ..... Also Wanted to add avoiding wars Kathy M Nov 2016 #92

Something is wrong when supposed liberals vote for the fascist instead of the liberal. baldguy Nov 2016 #85

I think you are correct Horse with no Name Nov 2016 #95

we are all hurting demtenjeep Nov 2016 #96