2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Something is wrong with the Democratic Party [View all]BainsBane
(53,027 posts)reverting in time. That isn't progressive, it's regressive. What is this core philosophy you think existed in the past? When? Was it during the FDR administration when the Democrats were the party of Jim Crow and Japanese internment camps? During the Cold War? Maybe the party of slavery? Are those the traditional "values."
What exactly about Clinton's platform did you find so objectionable? I get that empty slogans are all the rage, but if you all are going to keep going on reclaiming the glory days of the party, we have a right to know exactly when you want to return to, and whose rights you think we should do away with to make that happen.
There is no ideal past. There is a racist, exclusionary past. Hillary didn't run on a Third Way campaign. We are not in the 90s when the Third Way emerged so Democrats might have a hope of winning the presidency.
How is that few of you who use these ahistorical tropes can actually articulate a policy position or value you uphold?
If you mean to communicate something other than the Democratic party should serve white men to the exclusion of everyone else, you need to find a way to articulate some sort of idea rather than a nostalgia to return to the past. That is what Trump ran on.
By the way, 1/3 of those who voted for Bernie in the Democratic Primary in W Virginia said they were going to support Trump in the general election. They sought to ratfuck the primaries. Most or all of the Bernie anointed candidates lost in the general election, and most of them by margins wider than Clinton. You may think if the party were like what the college kids wanted we would win, yet there is absolutely no evidence to support it.
We still get to vote, and I sure as hell am not voting for anyone who talks about returning to the past.