2016 Postmortem

blkmusclmachine

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16. The DLC/Third Way that runs the DEM Party likes the status quo. They must be thrilled w/losing the

Thu Nov 13, 2014, 07:54 PM

Nov 2014

Senate to their champagne-sipping golfing pals in the GOP. They are all 1%'ers. They wouldn't recognize a liberal/progressive piece of legislation if it came up and stared them right in the face. Now they can both get to work on making sure we lose 2016, because this is a "Center-Right" Country. They should know. They've been working on making it one for over 30 years now.

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Liberals aren't Democrats? [View all] angrychair Nov 2014 OP

You asked "Are we not all liberals?" Simple answer = no. Big tent and all. nt kelly1mm Nov 2014 #1

not that big a tent angrychair Nov 2014 #4

OK. You are free to have any position you wish as to what is a 'true Scott' Democrat. Others may kelly1mm Nov 2014 #6

+1 for reality; but ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #39

There are specific Libertarian stances that I also share, but I hate a lot of the rest of them... cascadiance Nov 2014 #9

the items you list angrychair Nov 2014 #11

But many young people sometimes get confused in to thinking they are Libertarian and not Democratic cascadiance Nov 2014 #14

Historically, that is not true ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #41

Sadly ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #17

I find I think striking that you crossed the Rmoney out. Are you saying you can find room for TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #25

If you are obviously leftist, but you are not an unconditional loyalist, merrily Nov 2014 #28

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #38

You are the one that decided that being a strong supporter of natural rights and civil liberties whi TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #47

That's mostly in the mind of some DUers, though. merrily Nov 2014 #27

And on the pages of DU. eom 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #42

Links? merrily Nov 2014 #45

Use the DU search feature ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #48

Two problems with that. One, the most hits that I will turn up will probably be from the accusers. merrily Nov 2014 #49

Where do you think I got the stand with rand picture ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #50

How is that responsive to my comment? merrily Nov 2014 #51

The DP has always included groups of nonliberals. Such as non-Christian religious groups Hortensis Nov 2014 #19

you have some good points angrychair Nov 2014 #21

Cordially disagree. Democrats are whoever register as Democrats. It's a political party, Hortensis Nov 2014 #23

The non ideological political party is a lie. You will end up being for something and working toward TheKentuckian Nov 2014 #46

There's no room for someone like me? LP2K12 Nov 2014 #20

Depends on you angrychair Nov 2014 #22

The OP also asked if liberals aren't Democrats. A big tent doesn't = merrily Nov 2014 #26

This confirms that liberals are considered the fringe group in the party... mazzarro Nov 2014 #2

Yes, these middle-of-the-roaders have had their day, and they have failed. Maybe they're Cal33 Nov 2014 #12

The DLC/Third Way that runs the DEM Party likes the status quo. They must be thrilled w/losing the blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #16

No ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #18

The split in the party that was formalized by New Democrats necessitates that in some merrily Nov 2014 #32

Many are confusing ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2014 #43

The political organization that broke from its roots--at least its 20th century roots--may have merrily Nov 2014 #44

Did we really need further confirmation after merrily Nov 2014 #34

Exactly indeed. We do not need anymore confirmation -- n/t mazzarro Nov 2014 #36

Agree. This just seems bizarre to me. merrily Nov 2014 #37

No. Not all liberals are Democrats, and not all Democrats are liberals. n/t Dawgs Nov 2014 #3

please see response #4 NT angrychair Nov 2014 #5

This message was self-deleted by its author angrychair Nov 2014 #13

And not all Republicans are conservatives packman Nov 2014 #7

And not all conservatives are Republicans. merrily Nov 2014 #33

How many elected Democrats will even call themselves Liberals? progressoid Nov 2014 #8

totally the opposite of the rank-and-file noiretextatique Nov 2014 #10

I identify as a traditional Democrat and a populist. I don't think many today have a clue what merrily Nov 2014 #29

'My favorite Republican President' said by Alan Greenspan about Bill Clinton (sorry to say). appalachiablue Nov 2014 #15

What's in a name? I finished writing Reply 29 about a second before reading your post. merrily Nov 2014 #30

The problem is that progressives are told we are not true Democrats davidpdx Nov 2014 #24

Yeah. The No True Scotsman logical fallacy is big on DU. merrily Nov 2014 #31

I've been called not a liberal shenmue Nov 2014 #35

Cool, then should Every fredamae Nov 2014 #40

I hate to tell you this Warpy Nov 2014 #52

The majority of Democrats do not self-identify as liberal Recursion Nov 2014 #53