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In reply to the discussion: Kos: A Black Man's take on NN/BLM dustup: "Black Folks No on Bernie? Really?" [View all]merrily
(45,251 posts)188. Your post 173 does not respond to what I posted to you.
When looking for it, I noted that you had used "See Post #173" as a reply to many posters. I don't know if it fit their posts, but it does not fit mine.
This was my post:
wow.
What is wrong with anyone of any hue posting a piece by an African American who likes Sanders? The OP copied and pasted and posted without comment. The OP said nothing about the Diary being a majority opinion or a minority opinion.
We all know what the polls say. ]
Your reply #173 says:
No! To be clear, I have no problem with Black folks that support Bernie, and/or hate HRC ...
None whatsoever ... I do, however, object to the trotting out of a Black person, for no other reason than to have a minority view be, somehow, less minority. It is as distasteful to me for the left to do it as when the right trots out Jackson or Sowell to valid their racist narratives.
I bolded the only part of it that seems to apply to my post. However, my statement that we've all seen the polls negates that the OP is going to seem "less minority?" to most DUers. Also, I think its crappy and very condescending, for you to state, as though it were fact, that the OP, who is a person of color, "trotted out a black person" for no other reason that to try to deceive DUers.
Nother is wrong with posting a minority view of Americans or of African Americans, without trying to sell it as a majority view; and the OP never tried to sell it as a majority view. Moreover, if the OP had tried to do that, he or she would not have succeeded because, as my post said, 'we've all seen the polls--and the OP knows very well that we've all seen the polls (which makes your claim about the OP's motives worse).
Finally, even if the Op were attempting deceit. the reasonable reaction would have been to say, "That article is, of course, does not represent the view of a majority of African Americans." And, maybe, if you were ambitious, post a link to a poll, even though most of us would not have needed it. However, this was your reaction, or more accurately, your overreaction:
Let me ask you ...
do you NOT see how F'ked up your trotting out the "Random Black Guy Says" posts are, especially knowing that the "Random Black Guy Says" position is nowhere near the mainstream of Black thought? ... Even if you, as a PoC, happen to share the opinion?
Let me go a bit farther to put a finer point on it ... Are the republicans' racist messages, any less racist because Thomas Sowell and E.J Jackson share those messages? {ETA:} Does a Sowell or Jackson co-sign make the messages valid, just because a Black man said it, too?
So, as a Person of Color ... Please stop!
And then, your Reply 173, ascribing deceitful motives to the OP when the fact that we have all the seen the polls and the OP knows it suggests there was no such motive.
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Kos: A Black Man's take on NN/BLM dustup: "Black Folks No on Bernie? Really?" [View all]
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It's a punitive, disgusting law. There's not any provision for training, just time out after 5 yrs
PatrickforO
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#76
Hi, Dork! I suspect you've heard of the new Workforce Innovation and Opportunity Act
PatrickforO
Jul 2015
#97
Yes. "For any thinking Black person to say Hillary is better for Black folks than Bernie is
Zorra
Jul 2015
#3
I have researched it and cannot find where he actually said that "quote" ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#26
America's entire Foreign policy is racist. Just like our old Imperial allies.
sabrina 1
Jul 2015
#238
Yes ... though having a TV show does amplify that minority opinion. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#161
I am involved, deeply, in community service that puts me in close contact with Black folks ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#37
Congratulations!!! You win the Anonymous Internet Activist of the Year, DU Edition...
1StrongBlackMan
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#132
And the "rules for an online forum" don't dictate discernible reality. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
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#43
I know that polling data suggests that Hillary has a wide lead so far over Bernie with AA,
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2015
#39
According to the polls Donald Trump is the republican front runner-what does that say about polls?
luvspeas
Jul 2015
#203
Sure. But you have not explained why polls mean the OP should not post what he or she wants to post
merrily
Jul 2015
#171
Did. It's not responsive to my question and also an unwarranted slur on the OP. See Post # 188.
merrily
Jul 2015
#189
Good question. There is not. White people (I am one, so I can say this) have a pretty wide
PatrickforO
Jul 2015
#93
It's like the PUMA crowd realized they couldn't wave the sexism card around
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#55
Wouldn't that be racism that dividing poor whites from poor Blacks? ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#134
And not the acknowledgment that there are racial issues that CAN be solved by economic ones?
zeemike
Jul 2015
#148
"Some issues are not about economics, some are issues of race." < That's what plantation owners and
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#61
They get pulled over by police more often, they're more likely to get arrested
gollygee
Jul 2015
#75
If you put your blinders on and only look at that incident, conventiently, poof, it's all
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#86
If you say so. btw - repeating doesn't make you any more compelling, lol. Take care. n/t
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#91
Not willful ignorance if the author has nothing useful or new, or particularly accurate. Just good
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#94
What color and political party were the people turning over school buses when I was
jtuck004
Jul 2015
#147
Well ... If he just had economic parity with his white neighbors ... n/t
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#163
Obviously spoken by someone who has never driven a BMW while black. Switched to a prius
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#115
'However, then I read your posts in this thread and had to laugh.I find it absolutely incredible
Joe Chi Minh
Jul 2015
#242
No shit, good question. We were told the same thing by Clinton supporters in 2007
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#28
You are the one claiming to be speak for "mainstream African Americans", not me.
99th_Monkey
Jul 2015
#58
"So, as a Person of Color ... Please stop!" is not trying to silence anyone?
Exultant Democracy
Jul 2015
#59
No! To be clear, I have no problem with Black folks that support Bernie, and/or hate HRC ...
1StrongBlackMan
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#173
I do not support HRC ... I have said, time and again, I am undecided ...
1StrongBlackMan
Jul 2015
#174
Yes our blackness as a condition of approval dependent on correct thought.
Exultant Democracy
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#33
I have two questions, but since other people beat me to the first one, here's the second
Scootaloo
Jul 2015
#87
I would note that some of the most angry tweets I've seen about Bernie online from black tweeters
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2015
#34
I don't read every twitter account of every black person out there.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
Jul 2015
#108
Neither do I. I'm just giving one set of reasons people assume Clinton support.
jeff47
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#110
Yep. I learned a long time ago that as much as people like Ben Carson or CLARENCE
randys1
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#212
Can't respond to the hidden post so I thought I'd throw it out there.
beam me up scottie
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#107
This is OT, but that is one of the funniest names on DU as far as I'm concerned.
Ed Suspicious
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#155
Sounds like some in the media are trying to drive wedges between Bernie and African-American voters
forest444
Jul 2015
#100
Oh come on. Politics is real. Dirty politics is absolutely real. Follow the money, mang.
Ed Suspicious
Jul 2015
#156
I agree with much of what you say, yet Bernie has NOTHING to apologize for on civil rights. Nothing.
99th_Monkey
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#151
Thank you. Considering that most of the screeching is coming from the same cast of characters
corkhead
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#176
We white people need to know our history, accept reality, and work hard to fix the system
daybranch
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#167
Forget about that, black man. Let's talk about her, her husband, and their cheerleaders' racist
Liberal_Stalwart71
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#169
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#241
Imagine the extent of the damage she could inflict on the poor, elderly, and handicapped as POTUS.
Zorra
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#255
Did he/his team not think that his campaign would extend beyond Vermont ...
1StrongBlackMan
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#213
Thank you. I will ... Well, actually I am watching what is happening. n/t
1StrongBlackMan
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#254
What on Earth do I find about the Senator's current positions that run counter to
1StrongBlackMan
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#258
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