We know exactly what happens to "moderate" Dems.... (Reply #24)

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Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:40 PM

paleotn (15,715 posts)

24. We know exactly what happens to "moderate" Dems....

....they get slaughtered in the general. How many times have we seen some blue dog, DCCC Dem get crushed by a Republican wackaloon, so insane they're barely functional? More than a few times. If you don't fire up your own side, you lose, period, end of story. What little momentum or buzz there is doesn't carry over to those who pay little attention to day to day politics and they stay home. The base is lukewarm and many of them fail to vote as well. The right wing nuts do turn out and we end up with the Congress and state houses we currently have. Firing up the base put Barrack Obama in the White House twice. Hillary Clinton....no student of political history is she.

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56 replies	Author	Time	Post
Clinton cedes the mantle of "Progressive" to Sanders [View all]	portlander23	Sep 2015	OP
Thank you Bernie.	NowSam	Sep 2015	#1
'Center' = half Democrat and Half Republican	AgingAmerican	Sep 2015	#2
That third way shit is only for politicians who don't believe in their party's principles.	craigmatic	Sep 2015	#4
+1	daleanime	Sep 2015	#25
I believe another Kennedy is going to come out for Bernie soon. eom	Fawke Em	Sep 2015	#32
Given that right-wing nutjobs are routinely called "conservative," I guess it's worse than that. n/t	RufusTFirefly	Sep 2015	#22
Nobody is inspired by moderates. We live in times that demand action on big issues Obama showed us	craigmatic	Sep 2015	#3
Sadly, what usually happens when people say they try to bring people together	Baitball Blogger	Sep 2015	#5
Right, and the intersection where centrist Dems and Republicans...	dreamnightwind	Sep 2015	#47
You just never realize how far the power of the executive office has on local issues,	Baitball Blogger	Sep 2015	#53
I can see why DWS wants to keep the debates to six, the more she speaks the worse it gets..n/t	monmouth4	Sep 2015	#6
+1,000	LondonReign2	Sep 2015	#49
When you get "people" together, somehow the Democratic people always get screwed.	CharlotteVale	Sep 2015	#7
I wonder if her supporters will now stop claiming that she's liberal	Doctor_J	Sep 2015	#8
+1 But, but they've got evidence!	RufusTFirefly	Sep 2015	#23
We already know Clinton's own statements won't change their mind on other issues.	jeff47	Sep 2015	#40
As I noted a few days ago, HRH could have an hour-long televised sit-down	hifiguy	Sep 2015	#42
Moderate in this country means the same as right-wing Republican 35 years ago	jfern	Sep 2015	#9
The problem is that moderate these days means 80's Republican.	jalan48	Sep 2015	#10
I like Hillary's comment better	Gman	Sep 2015	#11
What, in your estimation, were the three most important things she got done?	MannyGoldstein	Sep 2015	#14
Awful quiet here.	frylock	Sep 2015	#27
It's a magic question. nt	MannyGoldstein	Sep 2015	#29
Gosh, it's gotta be hard to narrow it down to just the three.	frylock	Sep 2015	#30
That's almost certainly the problem. nt	MannyGoldstein	Sep 2015	#31
Well done	dreamnightwind	Sep 2015	#48
kick.	JonLeibowitz	Nov 2015	#56
Bringing working class Americans	paleotn	Sep 2015	#20
No more of this kind of bullshit:	hifiguy	Sep 2015	#43
Thanks for resurrecting an alltime favorite - eom	dreamnightwind	Sep 2015	#50
Who cares if they're the wrong things?	frylock	Sep 2015	#26
Like, the Iraq War? Got done to death.	leveymg	Sep 2015	#28
Yes but the wrong things. If you haven't noticed we have a 22% of American children living in	rhett o rick	Sep 2015	#46
To many Democrats 'moderate' can equate to 'wishy washy and unprincipled'	tomm2thumbs	Sep 2015	#12
Just like the GOP needs Teabaggers to win elections	lobodons	Sep 2015	#13
Calling yourself moderate may help in the general...	thesquanderer	Sep 2015	#15
I think she's just realized she can't hold the left flank	dreamnightwind	Sep 2015	#51
Hillary is the CHAMPION of ????	Cosmic Kitten	Sep 2015	#16
Any Clinton is the "champion" of one thing:	hifiguy	Sep 2015	#44
The mind of a true DCCC'er	mdbl	Sep 2015	#17
As Jim Hightower has said	dflprincess	Sep 2015	#18
Yup. Made a great book title, too.	SomeGuyInEagan	Sep 2015	#19
That says a lot all on its own.	Bubzer	Sep 2015	#21
We know exactly what happens to "moderate" Dems....	paleotn	Sep 2015	#24
K&R	Katashi_itto	Sep 2015	#33
Hillary, you're not preventing people from standing on opposite sides yelling at each other.....	Spitfire of ATJ	Sep 2015	#34
It's the whole "Imperial Presidency" thing	Hydra	Sep 2015	#35
Perhaps because we vote the same	840high	Sep 2015	#36
That's certainly been a problem	Hydra	Sep 2015	#37
Some of her fans are acting like it's a "loyalty to the Party issue"....	Spitfire of ATJ	Sep 2015	#38
I am so sick and tired of Democrats...	CoffeeCat	Sep 2015	#39
At least Hillary is honest	emsimon33	Sep 2015	#41
Hell I'm a moderte too -- That's why I support Bernie	Armstead	Sep 2015	#45
This is Tim Russert journalism	Buzz cook	Sep 2015	#52
Just guessing ...Kim Davis will be voting for Hillary?	L0oniX	Sep 2015	#54
A display of more awkwardness and lack of self identity	Hollingsworth	Sep 2015	#55

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