2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

(146,254 posts) Sun Oct 18, 2015, 01:03 PM Oct 2015

"If my Democratic candidate doesn't win, [View all]

I don't care who wins, even if it's a Republican, so I'm not even going to vote for the nominee unless he or she is the candidate I'm supporting in the primaries."

How does that statement or anything similar to it make any sense at all? I can't see that it does. How can a thoughtful Democrat or progressive of any kind ever say such a thing?

If someone could explain the logic of statements like that, I'd like to hear the explanation. I simply can't think of any possible explanation that makes any sense at all. So, I will be voting for the Democratic nominee, whoever that turns out to be. I've seen Republican Presidents in office. I did not like the results. I've seen Democratic Presidents in office. I liked their results much better.

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"If my Democratic candidate doesn't win, [View all] MineralMan Oct 2015 OP

Today's loyalty oath OP has already been posted PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #1

I guess you won't see this reply, then. MineralMan Oct 2015 #2

Well... quickesst Oct 2015 #129

You're on an internet forum,no one here has the sufrommich Oct 2015 #4

Besides, I simply asked for someone to explain the MineralMan Oct 2015 #8

I've always thought the "logic" to proclaiming sufrommich Oct 2015 #11

Well, in some cases, I'm sure that's true. MineralMan Oct 2015 #20

NAILED IT! brush Oct 2015 #114

Then just stay out of the way RandySF Oct 2015 #53

I've voted for the Democratic nominee since 1980 mcar Oct 2015 #3

You ought to ask clinton supporters. They have relevant experience Scootaloo Oct 2015 #5

How so? I haven't seen a single one say they won't MineralMan Oct 2015 #9

Because that's what they DID. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #105

Those who do not want to vote for the DNC nominee would probably be voting for the GOP nominee, they Thinkingabout Oct 2015 #6

This again? pinebox Oct 2015 #7

I'm not seeing that parallel between Clinton MineralMan Oct 2015 #12

The paralell pinebox Oct 2015 #65

Jennifer Howell NAILS it Art_from_Ark Oct 2015 #123

All that and you still haven't said if you will vote for the Dem nominee in the general election brush Oct 2015 #115

I, me, I, me... Bobbie Jo Oct 2015 #130

This is the answer to Mineral Man's question. nt betsuni Oct 2015 #141

And my respect for you drops another notch Android3.14 Oct 2015 #10

Well, you have ruined my day, for sure. MineralMan Oct 2015 #15

A good man regrets the loss of the regard of his community Android3.14 Oct 2015 #17

You are not 'my community.' MineralMan Oct 2015 #18

There are varying layers of "community" up to and including the entire human race Fumesucker Oct 2015 #36

No individual on DU is representative of the community of DU. MineralMan Oct 2015 #42

I don't have any problem with the community moderation Fumesucker Oct 2015 #52

That's true. It's only a tiny group that gets timed out. MineralMan Oct 2015 #131

Which "community" do you think you're speaking for? sufrommich Oct 2015 #19

You are good! I like this response — water off a duck's back. brush Oct 2015 #117

Zzzzzzzz. merrily Oct 2015 #13

Have a nice nap. MineralMan Oct 2015 #21

If O'Malley wins, he gets my vote. If Chaffey wins, he gets my vote. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #14

Looking at your avatar, I believe the person MineralMan Oct 2015 #16

I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and I'm not a young whippersnapper. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #28

You'll be handing the White House to Trump geek75 Oct 2015 #33

That's what they always say in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #45

Thank you! Nedsdag Oct 2015 #76

Exactly! in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #92

Look at me. Look at me. brush Oct 2015 #118

Wellstone, a DOMA voting anti civil rights buster, opponent of basic equality. Bluenorthwest Oct 2015 #98

Wellstone apologized for that vote Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #113

'You can't have the salad!'.. aidbo Oct 2015 #22

Any republican would be much worse geek75 Oct 2015 #35

+1 OverBurn Oct 2015 #94

It makes no sense to me. Maybe ask a former PUMA to explain it. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #23

I would have no idea who to ask, frankly. MineralMan Oct 2015 #30

If Hillary has another "Running from Snipers" moment Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #31

I doubt if his message crosses party lines very well at all. MineralMan Oct 2015 #32

This fixation on PUMA's (not you, MM)... yallerdawg Oct 2015 #50

Those PUMAs were disgusting geek75 Oct 2015 #55

No worries! yallerdawg Oct 2015 #66

I'm worried geek75 Oct 2015 #69

Given, Trump is scary, but McCain would've had us up to our asses in war after war . . . brush Oct 2015 #122

PUMAs were practically non existent and in such small numbers sufrommich Oct 2015 #59

Could have been geek75 Oct 2015 #68

Senator Sanders (I-VT) isn't even a Democrat. yallerdawg Oct 2015 #75

I think BS has more cross-party appeal than HRC does thesquanderer Oct 2015 #139

Pictures and a thousand words - edgineered Oct 2015 #24

Here's an explanation, though I don't agree wih it Armstead Oct 2015 #25

I've heard that argument, but it's not logical. MineralMan Oct 2015 #26

No less logical than believing one has to be loyal to a party whose behavior they don't support Armstead Oct 2015 #29

Well stated! CrispyQ Oct 2015 #102

Thanks, but please make sure the while thing is included Armstead Oct 2015 #103

Yeah if that's his/her logic, why post on a board whose purpose is to elect Democrats? brush Oct 2015 #124

that's not what it is for me, mineral man restorefreedom Oct 2015 #27

let me explain this to you TheFarseer Oct 2015 #34

And Donald Trump would be better? geek75 Oct 2015 #37

did you even read my post!? nt TheFarseer Oct 2015 #39

Every word geek75 Oct 2015 #41

I don't remember anyone saying that about Obama TheFarseer Oct 2015 #79

Only slightly better than Trump? geek75 Oct 2015 #82

Same character, same preaching, same loyalty oath. 99Forever Oct 2015 #38

And Trump would be better? geek75 Oct 2015 #40

Welcome to DU. 99Forever Oct 2015 #48

I will not accept a Trump presidency geek75 Oct 2015 #51

Well goodie for you. 99Forever Oct 2015 #57

I know what a Trump is geek75 Oct 2015 #64

Not a single one. 99Forever Oct 2015 #71

Well then you better hope TM99 Oct 2015 #63

I'm voting for Sanders geek75 Oct 2015 #74

Don't recall Hillary supporters saying they won't vote for Bernie if he wins the primary brush Oct 2015 #125

FYI Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #106

Thanks WS. 99Forever Oct 2015 #109

I'd rather vote Green than for a DINO for president Califonz Oct 2015 #43

Glad you clarified geek75 Oct 2015 #47

Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #44

remember 2000 geek75 Oct 2015 #49

Apparently, principles are flexible for you. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #54

Eight long years of Bush geek75 Oct 2015 #62

Gore couldn't even win his home state pinebox Oct 2015 #73

Tennessee has been inundated by extremists geek75 Oct 2015 #77

Gore did win the election, remember. The Nader voters, even though they will jump through . . . brush Oct 2015 #126

Many Nader voters regretted it geek75 Oct 2015 #140

Yep! And history would have been completely different. brush Oct 2015 #142

That's a right wing argument. One of the 99 Oct 2015 #111

And, therefore, Katherine Harris is blameless, right? Jim Lane Oct 2015 #127

Do you think that John Quincey Adams and Tom Paine were stupid? Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #86

Al Gore won that election. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #87

It wouldn't have gotten to the Supreme Court if not for Nader. One of the 99 Oct 2015 #112

It wouldn't have gotten to the SCOTUS had voter rolls not been purged of THOUSANDS of voters, or if in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #121

True. One of the 99 Oct 2015 #136

Hillary has already been fooled by the Vast Right Wing conspiracy once Fumesucker Oct 2015 #46

I live in a very blue state, my vote is irrelevent. nt m-lekktor Oct 2015 #56

Bernie Sanders endorsed Bill Clinton in 1996 Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #58

So, you don't think the issues where they differ count? djean111 Oct 2015 #67

Hell, I'm frustrated with the Clintons Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #72

When you say djean111 Oct 2015 #85

But the thing is, Sanders has endorsed EVERY Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #116

You moved the goalposts from "frustrated with Clinton". djean111 Oct 2015 #120

Bernie Sanders has already stated Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #133

Bernie, of course, is free to endorse anyone he wants. djean111 Oct 2015 #134

Yes. Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #135

I will vote for the GE democrat. I like both Bernie and HRC. RKP5637 Oct 2015 #60

My individual vote is irrelevant, thanks to the Electoral College. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #61

I do too, but geek75 Oct 2015 #81

Yeah, that's the danger. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #83

I have a dream where we have direct national elections with instant runoff ballots. Warren Stupidity Oct 2015 #107

If you're a progressive as many here claim, how does it make any sense Broward Oct 2015 #70

None of us are supporting Hillary over Bernie geek75 Oct 2015 #78

Who's "us?" MoonRiver Oct 2015 #88

These passive-aggressive, Aerows Oct 2015 #80

Never said that geek75 Oct 2015 #84

That wasn't directed at you. Aerows Oct 2015 #96

+1 Absolutely! BeanMusical Oct 2015 #100

Scare tactics are in great form here: sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #89

Who said that? nt LWolf Oct 2015 #90

so you're saying that if any Dem, say, backs the Ros-Lehtinens, Christie, Lieberman, etc MisterP Oct 2015 #91

I will support the Democratic Nominee no matter what Gothmog Oct 2015 #93

It doesn't make any sense. It makes the person who says it sound petulant and immature. Lyric Oct 2015 #95

Can't we wait until after the convention to make nice? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2015 #97

agree totally, demigoddess Oct 2015 #99

It Truly Is Simple Mineral Man - Some Of Us Do Not Believe That Rhetoric Because We See That cantbeserious Oct 2015 #101

Simply put, I am not a Democrat or a progressive. F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #104

Even if this is a loyalty oath, I will not sign it; whether it is or isn't, I will not make promises Jack Rabbit Oct 2015 #108

I support Bernie One of the 99 Oct 2015 #110

Incorrect, it isn't about who I'm supporting or the highway it is that I have swallowed my last TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #119

It only works if you are endowed with lots of privilege. McCamy Taylor Oct 2015 #128

It is a scorched-earth mindset reminiscent of Tea Partiers Tarc Oct 2015 #132

Pffft. Forget it. nt Bonobo Oct 2015 #137

re: "I simply can't think of any possible explanation that makes any sense at all." thesquanderer Oct 2015 #138