2016 Postmortem

KingCharlemagne

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119. your argument in the other thread was debunked

Sun Nov 8, 2015, 07:34 PM

Nov 2015

and discredited, save perhaps in your mind.

Be that as it may, should Sanders secure the nomination, might we expect you to leave the Democratic Party, being as how you claim to believe?

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I'm with Howard Dean: Bernie is not a Democrat [View all] Sheepshank Nov 2015 OP

It berns you bad, eh? RobertEarl Nov 2015 #1

+1 million !!! darkangel218 Nov 2015 #93

Some are doomed to be followers Sheepshank Nov 2015 #96

your opinion on this is irrelevant ibegurpard Nov 2015 #2

No one's opinion is irrelevant. tabasco Nov 2015 #5

an opinion is not relevant ibegurpard Nov 2015 #20

It is how a person interprets the facts, jkbRN Nov 2015 #34

LOL, ibe. Facts say opinions can move worlds, facts be damned. Hortensis Nov 2015 #41

So you vote for labels over policy, compassion, and honesty. We get it. n/t Dawgs Nov 2015 #3

Please explain HOW Bernie has undermined the Democratic Party while in office. Thanks. n/t Avalux Nov 2015 #4

Funny, I just got an email from the DNC hyping "our candidates" including Bernie, Martin and Hillary Scuba Nov 2015 #6

Yes, he is a candidate on the Democratic Ticket...I've not said otherwise. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #22

Try this then ... Scuba Nov 2015 #30

No discussion,just snark...typical and expected. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #33

You're the one splitting hairs. Scuba Nov 2015 #37

I'm being very particular over the words Bernie is using Sheepshank Nov 2015 #54

BTW, the gif in your sig line is shameful. Scuba Nov 2015 #56

So I've been told Sheepshank Nov 2015 #60

The label "Democrat" LWolf Nov 2015 #7

+100 tokenlib Nov 2015 #39

+1,000 PoiBoy Nov 2015 #62

+10,000 Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #108

You perfectly outlined why we get OP's like this one. arcane1 Nov 2015 #114

Why, thank you. LWolf Nov 2015 #115

word salad blah,blah, blah Armstead Nov 2015 #8

+1 Jackilope Nov 2015 #45

Trash canning this turd op. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #9

Your last statement like this was hidden...for good reason Sheepshank Nov 2015 #48

Stalkers PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #49

If there was any flame bait it was your response. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #51

This was one alerted too! dorkzilla Nov 2015 #55

I reiterate the title of my last post in this thread. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #58

Bernie is what a true Democrat should be - what a true Democrat used to be. Vinca Nov 2015 #10

He is a true "like" a democrat Sheepshank Nov 2015 #52

So you (and Donald Trump) would prefer he split the vote? Vinca Nov 2015 #53

Of course you would prefer to jump to an extreme invalid interpretation Sheepshank Nov 2015 #59

I really don't care about your loyalties or lack thereof. Vinca Nov 2015 #66

If you didn't care, perhaps you could lay off the actual request for loyalty nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #67

You've got me totally confused. Vinca Nov 2015 #95

i dont understand loyalty to a party without principles. Voice for Peace Nov 2015 #68

I believe in fixing problems from the inside out. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #74

and bernie proposes doing just that. but how can you overlook Voice for Peace Nov 2015 #76

Not once, never has Bernie indicated an interest in party building Sheepshank Nov 2015 #82

this shit again? demwing Nov 2015 #11

I am greatly disturbed by Howard Dean's SheilaT Nov 2015 #12

I agree with you yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #18

Maybe, but Bernie has been trashing the Democratic Party Hortensis Nov 2015 #50

Excellent post. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #61

What Bernie has mostly been trashing SheilaT Nov 2015 #65

It sounds as if you are equating Dean with Sanders because Hortensis Nov 2015 #80

I am not equating them directly. SheilaT Nov 2015 #81

Well, you will get a genuine liberal, SheilaT, Hortensis Nov 2015 #87

But he has an avatar on DU... SidDithers Nov 2015 #13

If Dick Cheney declared himself a Democrat, MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #17

of course ibegurpard Nov 2015 #21

Wow. tazkcmo Nov 2015 #25

I was answering the question for Sid ibegurpard Nov 2015 #44

Within the Democratic Party there are good and bad players Sheepshank Nov 2015 #24

Sid didn't even vote for Obama Fumesucker Nov 2015 #38

That's almost pertinent to this discussion Sheepshank Nov 2015 #79

Just another example of someone with an opinion and no skin in the game Fumesucker Nov 2015 #83

I suggest you take this up with Skinner as a new board rule Sheepshank Nov 2015 #84

You were the one who started this OP, I don't care who posts what Fumesucker Nov 2015 #86

If Bernie is nominated Tommy2Tone Nov 2015 #101

Howard Dean doesn't get to define what a Democrat is and neither do you. pipoman Nov 2015 #14

Neither do you...I agree the idiocy berns. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #26

nannynannybooboo...lol...ffs pipoman Nov 2015 #28

Run out of arguments? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #29

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #15

Bernie better represents Democratic values than 95%+ of elected "Democrats" MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #16

Represents, is like, just like, espouses, caucuses with, more like Sheepshank Nov 2015 #27

Your grave-dancing sig speaks volumes. MannyGoldstein Nov 2015 #32

Thoroughly dislike them creepy crawlies. I admit it. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #36

Bernie is a Democrat under Vermont law, the only law that matters as to his political party. merrily Nov 2015 #35

That went well. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #19

dean has gone lower in my view Robbins Nov 2015 #23

DWS capitulated, Dean held fast Sheepshank Nov 2015 #31

To capitulate is not always a bad thing, jkbRN Nov 2015 #40

"To capitulate is mot always a bad thing" Sheepshank Nov 2015 #47

He's running as a Democrat. End of discussion. Hepburn Nov 2015 #42

DWS acts to undermine the party Lordquinton Nov 2015 #43

And not just DWS who's harming the party Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #109

I believe Senator Sanders when I heard him call himself a "Democratic Socialist" Sunlei Nov 2015 #46

Yes, I believe he calls himself and Independent and DS nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #70

More SOD (sanctity of democrats) whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #57

Howard Dean has said Bernie is an asset to the Party. He never said Bernie was not a Democrat. merrily Nov 2015 #63

I'm with Thomas Jefferson about parties. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #64

He is, however, a Democratic candidate in the primaries. MineralMan Nov 2015 #69

Yes he is a Democratic candidate Sheepshank Nov 2015 #73

Bernie Sanders himself said he was only running AS a Democrat moobu2 Nov 2015 #71

I don't believe you. DisgustipatedinCA Nov 2015 #72

Then you haven't seen them all Sheepshank Nov 2015 #75

What are you frightened of? Rosa Luxemburg Nov 2015 #77

What makes you think I'm frightened? Sheepshank Nov 2015 #78

As long as Bernie is fighting for the American people Luciferous Nov 2015 #85

Party schmarty... Blue_In_AK Nov 2015 #88

I am a long time registered Democratic voter/volunteer, Howard Dean does not speak for me.nt Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #89

But Bernie does? That makes no sense. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #91

I didn't say that? Do you know how a reasonable discussion proceeds? Todays_Illusion Nov 2015 #117

Bernie is a jew Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #90

If you are attempting to work in absolutes, you are doomed to fail Sheepshank Nov 2015 #92

Howard Dean did not even know our Party's platform when he was Chair now he is opposing the Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #94

He is a Democratic Socialist whose opportunistic politician's instinct Gloria Nov 2015 #97

It's so obvious. Nt Sheepshank Nov 2015 #98

"It would be hypocritical of me to run as a Democrat because of the things I have said about the Cha Nov 2015 #99

No denying the hypocrisy. Sheepshank Nov 2015 #100

Deny Deny Deny. Cha Nov 2015 #104

He's a loyal American. That's what counts with me. He hasn't sold his soul Cleita Nov 2015 #102

I agree with Howard Dean BlueDemKev Nov 2015 #103

Meow Bonobo Nov 2015 #105

Unrec yuiyoshida Nov 2015 #106

At this point in the game AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #107

So when 3rd Way, conservative corporatist "Democrats" took over the Democratic Party leadership Kip Humphrey Nov 2015 #110

Good Kalidurga Nov 2015 #111

one of us demwing Nov 2015 #112

What you are saying is the party is not important Sheepshank Nov 2015 #113

How, pray tell, is Sanders undermining the Democratic Party? Inquiring minds would like to know. - n KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #116

I briefly mentioned it up thread Sheepshank Nov 2015 #118

your argument in the other thread was debunked KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #119