2016 Postmortem

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83. Hillaryous

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Tue Nov 10, 2015, 08:29 PM

Nov 2015

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Hillary WILL NOT Lobby Against The TPP [View all] Segami Nov 2015 OP

She wants her cake and to eat it too. TM99 Nov 2015 #1

Unions need to WAKE UP. Segami Nov 2015 #6

And just who do you think REALLY pays the union heads? erronis Nov 2015 #44

You are correct.The local meetings are meaningless and in INdemo Nov 2015 #67

Unions are supporting Hillary, the are not part of the 1% lewebley3 Nov 2015 #169

Their leadership most certainly is TM99 Nov 2015 #173

Then Sanders leadership is corrupt too! lewebley3 Nov 2015 #194

Your mother is a hamster and your father smells of elderberry. TM99 Nov 2015 #197

Typical Sanders person, Just a lot of nonsense: Your guy is losing lewebley3 Nov 2015 #198

EXACTLY !! kacekwl Nov 2015 #52

Exactly! acuity24 Nov 2015 #159

Yup, typical Hillary...afraid to take a principled stand. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2015 #163

she helped create it. she hates us. That's the last straw for me. roguevalley Nov 2015 #77

Well this prover She can't walk the walk! imthevicar Nov 2015 #135

Hillary should not take advise from Sanders supporters lewebley3 Nov 2015 #168

Why? TM99 Nov 2015 #171

I don't think Sanders people are better people: Just the opposite lewebley3 Nov 2015 #196

You must be fresh out of high school TM99 Nov 2015 #199

You talk like you in High school: All you got is calling Hillary names lewebley3 Nov 2015 #200

Odd, really, TM99 Nov 2015 #201

Your post was nothing but slander against Hillary lewebley3 Nov 2015 #202

Another sign that Hillary doesn't support American labor... Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #204

More nonesene: The Dem party is made up of mostly workers lewebley3 Nov 2015 #205

May I speak to a supervisor, please? [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #206

It's the gold standard of trade agreements. Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #2

Absolutely. tecelote Nov 2015 #19

After she locks up the nomination? Fast Walker 52 Nov 2015 #41

Locks it up or concedes, Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #92

I'm sure there will be "new information" she "discovers", to justify it though. nt 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #121

Yep... BeanMusical Nov 2015 #136

Hillaryous Plucketeer Nov 2015 #83

Slip slidin' through the cracks. pangaia Nov 2015 #3

It's a slippery slope back into their pockets (or cracks....) erronis Nov 2015 #46

She wants to be "our" CHAMPION. stillwaiting Nov 2015 #4

Well I'm UglyGreed Nov 2015 #5

When has she ever led? virtualobserver Nov 2015 #7

And Netanyahoo's bestest buddy. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #59

Of course she won't Kelvin Mace Nov 2015 #8

She's kinda busy Buzz cook Nov 2015 #9

Hasn't been- ruffburr Nov 2015 #10

She's determined to be the first President Aerows Nov 2015 #11

bazinga! sad but true. nt restorefreedom Nov 2015 #13

in other words, she supports it restorefreedom Nov 2015 #12

Why would she lobby against the "gold standard of trade"? Autumn Nov 2015 #14

The "gold standard of trade"... Paka Nov 2015 #97

She's so fucking dishonest. AzDar Nov 2015 #15

LOL! - "I'm Hillary Clinton, and I am a PROGRESSIVE who gets things done!" Segami Nov 2015 #16

Spot-on. AzDar Nov 2015 #18

The same as on every issue. 840high Nov 2015 #68

reminds me when she went to NASDAQ and told them to roguevalley Nov 2015 #78

I didn't recall that she said "Knock it off" so to be sure I searched the BeanMusical Nov 2015 #137

She's raised triangulation to a fine art... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #89

+1 Paka Nov 2015 #105

Well, why the hell not, then? MrMickeysMom Nov 2015 #17

It's the Pander Bear! Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #147

She's big money, big corporation, big Bankster and Billionaire... SoapBox Nov 2015 #20

Wow! Where are the Hillary supporters defending her stance? tecelote Nov 2015 #21

Group meeting at the other site? bahrbearian Nov 2015 #23

I'm more and more convinced every day that they're nihilists. Ed Suspicious Nov 2015 #38

The Authoritarian Personality. Erich Fromm said it all: rhett o rick Nov 2015 #126

yes, patronizing to the third letter.... hopemountain Nov 2015 #133

And that CACKLE laugh. My dislike of her grows daily. willvotesdem Nov 2015 #156

Posting a link to marxists.org, attacking Democrats ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #164

At least I posted a link to an article. You should read it, it won't hurt. rhett o rick Nov 2015 #166

You can still be a Marxist and a Democrat you know. blackspade Nov 2015 #175

I'm "red baiting" in the exact same way... ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #182

Interesting that you would even make that kind of comparison. blackspade Nov 2015 #184

If you like your cognitive dissonance... ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #185

LOL that was a yummy word salad. blackspade Nov 2015 #187

So when faced with incontrovertible proof... ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #192

Another failed response from you. blackspade Nov 2015 #193

That's adorable... ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #195

Snort. blackspade Nov 2015 #210

You're the little guy who can't argue merits ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #213

Now your getting pathetic with your childish insults. blackspade Nov 2015 #215

Its based on a research book called The Authoritarian Specter, by Bob Altemeyer LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #179

I read your links. Cobbled together gobbldygook... ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #183

Yes I saw that. LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #211

Okay, so to summarize your thinking ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #214

Not really LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #216

Actually, I'm actually quite respectful of the adult lefties of the party. ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #218

The Democrats have a large tent LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #219

I wouldn't be on the DU if I weren't a Democrat ConservativeDemocrat Nov 2015 #220

seriously? your money hungry ilk are destroying the democratic party hopemountain Nov 2015 #186

They're busy having a "Bernie doesn't get black people" day today. AlbertCat Nov 2015 #58

As memes go it is dead in the water. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #64

Ha! R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #63

We need a spy over there. They have lists. And they monitor the Bernie Sanders Group rhett o rick Nov 2015 #117

Eventually someone will spill the beans and show us interesting screenshots. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #142

Yes I agree. Those types of groups always implode. It usually turns out to be rhett o rick Nov 2015 #165

We go it handeled William769 Nov 2015 #217

"We offer different memberships to different people as many sites do." BeanMusical Nov 2015 #221

They are waiting on their talking points. wilsonbooks Nov 2015 #39

Please, please put them on ignore. nm rhett o rick Nov 2015 #113

Hey, at least that's consistent with going to the NASDAQ and telling them to knock it off. SheilaT Nov 2015 #22

Hey, hey please be more accurate. She never said "knock it off". rhett o rick Nov 2015 #116

Hey now, please be accurate in your corrections! a2liberal Nov 2015 #144

I don't like to be corrected so, "cut it out". rhett o rick Nov 2015 #162

Will Sanders "lobby against TPP"? George II Nov 2015 #24

From his website Bryce Butler Nov 2015 #27

So who voted for TPP fast track in the Senate? (List) LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #28

He has already stated that he will. guillaumeb Nov 2015 #30

ah George arrives. :) roguevalley Nov 2015 #81

And your point is? George II Nov 2015 #99

Hi George! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #143

LOL! polly7 Nov 2015 #150

Lol, sorry! BeanMusical Nov 2015 #153

It's ok! polly7 Nov 2015 #154

I know what you mean. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #155

And water is wet. PowerToThePeople Nov 2015 #25

.. SammyWinstonJack Nov 2015 #26

I wonder what the leader of the Democratic Party will do? yallerdawg Nov 2015 #29

Was anybody naive enough to think she would? Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #31

"I still don't know why she doesn't support it." SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #42

That reason doesn't count Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #74

Screw that. Android3.14 Nov 2015 #32

What does that mean? KansDem Nov 2015 #33

She’s intentionally talking out of both sides of her mouth dorkzilla Nov 2015 #62

She wants you to know she's against it hughee99 Nov 2015 #76

I'm fucking sick of these assholes... lame54 Nov 2015 #34

I agree with you in principal, but... tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #93

Why should I vote for a candidate coyote Nov 2015 #127

watch last nights debate... lame54 Nov 2015 #160

Well I guess it´s all in what you want coyote Nov 2015 #188

I didn't expect her to. mmonk Nov 2015 #35

So since the TPP text is now available, please point me to the exact sections Persondem Nov 2015 #36

Show me one passage that actually has an enforcement mechanism with teeth to stop any GoneFishin Nov 2015 #40

Oh, I'm sure the corporate tribunals, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #43

I know it. The one-sided language is a farce. But here's the kicker. Even though the GoneFishin Nov 2015 #49

Hey, can't have peons having their day in court, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #54

Why not ask Hillary Clinton about the enforcement of tribunal decisions? DhhD Nov 2015 #181

Chapter 28, section 19 Persondem Nov 2015 #47

I know there is enforcement to help them screw us, I meant the humanitarian causes you cited. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #51

Look, I get that past trade deals have not been all that well done. But I do think Persondem Nov 2015 #56

I respect that you are trying to look at it fair handedly. That's great. But my opinion, which GoneFishin Nov 2015 #69

Ok, good find. I like that you actually read the thing. Persondem Nov 2015 #91

Is that really an enforcement mechanism? Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #98

That's beside the point. The "money" comes from American taxpayers and goes to corporations. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #103

Let me propose some TPP ideas Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #109

Why does any country enter into any trade agreement? If it is not going to follow the Persondem Nov 2015 #120

The best thing to do would be to not enter a bad trade agreement Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #124

So along with that nice bag of generalities not based on the actual document Persondem Nov 2015 #158

I don't want a way for artificial persons to make an end run around democatic governments Jack Rabbit Nov 2015 #172

You need a lesson on rhetoric. "This section allows" Do you not see that "allows" is not binding? rhett o rick Nov 2015 #118

Allow can mean a lot of things. Could you give me the exact location or quote please? nt Persondem Nov 2015 #119

Here's a good article for a start: BeanMusical Nov 2015 #145

Whoever wrote that has not read TPP Persondem Nov 2015 #157

We are nameless, faceless little people up against her billionaire friends. Who is she going to side GoneFishin Nov 2015 #37

+1 darkangel218 Nov 2015 #45

We are but grist for the mill, while Hillary is driving the steamroller. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #132

Well there are so many of us, and we whine incessantly about jobs, and food and stuff. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #139

Of course not. Just like she didn't speak out before Fast Track passed. Then after it passed PRESTO! think Nov 2015 #48

BINGO. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #55

Slippery. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #140

NO mention silenttigersong Nov 2015 #50

So after taking months to conclude that she is against TPP d_legendary1 Nov 2015 #53

It is no surprise at all that she came out against the TPP once fast track was past davidpdx Nov 2015 #134

It's grade school level politics. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #141

No, it is a matter of whether a very bad trade deal passes or not davidpdx Nov 2015 #146

Agreed. GoneFishin Nov 2015 #167

Especially with all her congessional endorsements. GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #189

Hillary is a true leader for the 1%! R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #57

Empty Pantsuit n/t whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #60

I disagree. It's full of something alright. R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2015 #70

Haha whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author GoneFishin Nov 2015 #106

LOL Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #151

She is called a leader by some here! sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #61

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2015 #65

I would like to know the answer, as well. Utterly baffling. AzDar Nov 2015 #72

That's quite a first post! ColesCountyDem Nov 2015 #75

You nailed it! Welcome to DU! tex-wyo-dem Nov 2015 #96

Welcome to DU! Paka Nov 2015 #110

This is like General Election already I mean INdemo Nov 2015 #66

Why should she, she isn't in the Congress or Senate. Historic NY Nov 2015 #71

Well, she is claiming to be a strong leader, and running for a leadership position. jeff47 Nov 2015 #112

Lots if endorsers in Congress ... GeorgeGist Nov 2015 #190

SO, no single-payer advocacy, silence on the TPP, extremely likely further warmongering, etc, etc stupidicus Nov 2015 #73

All excellent points. SmittynMo Nov 2015 #79

Wow Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #80

Curious how they're going to spin this. Phlem Nov 2015 #84

How? Puglover Nov 2015 #88

Oh that's right, nothing of substance Phlem Nov 2015 #104

I wish I could remember the name of the talking Puglover Nov 2015 #85

This really ticks me off. Can you Hillary supporters not see the writing on the wall? She's a liar. YOHABLO Nov 2015 #86

I made this prediction earlier today floriduck Nov 2015 #87

This is probably the MAIN reason I'm supporting Bernie and not Clinton. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #90

Damned right Populist_Prole Nov 2015 #125

And she shouldn't. Let Bernie do it. That too will come back to haunt him. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #94

Why does your profile show you as floriduck Nov 2015 #95

Its the system. I do support Bernie but I like Hillary more. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #100

What would come back to haunt Bernie? Lobbying against the TPP? Dawgs Nov 2015 #212

What More Should One Expect From A Card Holding Member Of The 1% cantbeserious Nov 2015 #101

LOL !!! WillyT Nov 2015 #102

Who's side are you on, Hillary? azmom Nov 2015 #107

Not the side of the people. senz Nov 2015 #108

"Who's side are you on, Hillary?" BeanMusical Nov 2015 #148

America needs her to lobby against it, and see that oit is defeated. Faryn Balyncd Nov 2015 #111

Empty suit, except for all the corporate $$$$$. JEB Nov 2015 #114

Hillary and Wall Street Dems care more about India, China than USA. Seriously. They are bored whereisjustice Nov 2015 #115

OP makes excellent point EXCEPT... philly_bob Nov 2015 #122

She thinks people are stupid enough to not realize that her "position" is just for show jfern Nov 2015 #123

+1 Absolutely. BeanMusical Nov 2015 #149

K&R. Compare to Bernie who is opposed to the TPP and will do all he can to stop its passage. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #128

Clearly, now there is a difference between Bernie and Hillary that is real and substantial. Major Hogwash Nov 2015 #131

Anyway The Wind Blows Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #129

... BeanMusical Nov 2015 #152

Colour me surprised (sarcasm). eom Betty Karlson Nov 2015 #130

Not to worry Fairgo Nov 2015 #138

Uh, let's see monicaangela Nov 2015 #161

Hillary Clinton, will you expand social security? retrowire Nov 2015 #170

Her prevaricating is painful to watch. blackspade Nov 2015 #174

Hillary's comment leaves open the bizarre possibility I hate liars Nov 2015 #176

This is painful PROOF.... bvar22 Nov 2015 #177

I don't trust a thing Faux pas Nov 2015 #178

Yep, jkbRN Nov 2015 #180

Good for her Freddie Stubbs Nov 2015 #191

Of course she won't; her backers wrote most of it! [nt] Jester Messiah Nov 2015 #203

She has "Never bite the hand that feeds you (or, pays you to entertain them)" down pat. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #207

She can't, she supports it. sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #208

She is still "evolving" on the issue EndElectoral Nov 2015 #209