2016 Postmortem

Kalidurga

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62. I think if she had been politically inclined

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #58)

Sat Nov 28, 2015, 06:38 PM

Nov 2015

that job wouldn't have ever been in her resume, she would have already had a job in politics.

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What if Bernie were Bernice? [View all] pnwmom Nov 2015 OP

. 99th_Monkey Nov 2015 #1

Hillary does have a very unconventional past Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #2

Food for thought. He definitely benefits from white male privilege. Metric System Nov 2015 #3

if that the case Hillary Clinton benefits from white female privilege Truprogressive85 Nov 2015 #52

so true. Hiraeth Nov 2015 #121

I agree that: LWolf Nov 2015 #4

Thank you. Many here seem to want to pretend that any discussion pnwmom Nov 2015 #6

You are welcome, of course. LWolf Nov 2015 #124

+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #11

Thanks for your thoughtful post. lovemydog Nov 2015 #79

My support for Hillary is not gender based RandySF Nov 2015 #5

Don't forget the hair. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #7

Bernice seems like an awful person. nt Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #8

Not to me. He seems like an extremely passionate, focused person -- pnwmom Nov 2015 #9

this Bernie supporter agrees, but I still think HRC/WJC are corrupt corporatists & wrong for U.S. zazen Nov 2015 #10

Thank you for a reasoned, non-defensive post. Yes, it is very possible pnwmom Nov 2015 #15

Voting for someone because of gender is the same as voting against someone because of gender. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #12

I would say that isn't always true. Not when you think both candidates have pnwmom Nov 2015 #16

Is it "true" this time? Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #19

I will vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee. pnwmom Nov 2015 #22

I was impressed by her IWR vote, advocacy of torture, and calls for more war. Tierra_y_Libertad Nov 2015 #23

oh, and k&r, because I hate this culture's double standard against "old women" n/t zazen Nov 2015 #13

Yes, Bernie has benefitted from privilege, that doesn't make his ideas any less correct. aidbo Nov 2015 #14

I don't think the election is ever based solely on ideas. pnwmom Nov 2015 #20

What if Hillary were Henry? Doctor_J Nov 2015 #17

I think a man who had been Secretary of State for Obama and Senator from NY, pnwmom Nov 2015 #21

that's the problem with living in a dream world as you seem to be doing Doctor_J Nov 2015 #24

You're the one living in a dream world. Men with her qualifications pnwmom Nov 2015 #26

Yup nt artislife Nov 2015 #34

john kerry was far more liberal than HRC. karynnj Nov 2015 #97

No,he wasn't. Not based on his Senate record. pnwmom Nov 2015 #99

It seems you are delighted by a turn to the right Aerows Nov 2015 #102

if you compare any year each were in the Senate, he karynnj Nov 2015 #107

If you look at each of their entire records while they were in the Senate, pnwmom Nov 2015 #108

their careers do not cover the same time frame karynnj Nov 2015 #110

Are you forgetting Biden's unwaivering support for the usurious Credit Card Companies? bvar22 Nov 2015 #129

None of that, for me, is even a whisp of a reason for me to support Hillary rather than Bernie. djean111 Nov 2015 #18

Then she'd be even better ibegurpard Nov 2015 #25

Can you think of any "angry," "gruff" women in Congress? pnwmom Nov 2015 #28

Virginia Foxx and Mean Jean Schmidt on the Rethuglican side. SMC22307 Nov 2015 #61

No problem for me. bvar22 Nov 2015 #27

Elizabeth Warren has spoken out repeatedly about the sexism pnwmom Nov 2015 #29

The op lives in a fantasy world. "If Bernie was a female, ..." Doctor_J Nov 2015 #30

You're living in a fantasy world, if you think Bernice Sanders would have succeeded pnwmom Nov 2015 #31

Since there IS no "Bernice Sanders", this whole THREAD is based upon a fantasy. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #132

Yes. The fantasy should make it obvious that no woman would have pnwmom Nov 2015 #135

The thing is would Hillary even be where she is at artislife Nov 2015 #35

BLAMO! bvar22 Nov 2015 #43

I think she would have. She was the first elected commencement speaker pnwmom Nov 2015 #51

I don't buy it. nt artislife Nov 2015 #68

Or in the Marines, right? Since Bill "changed" her course. Didn't she want to be a Marine? cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #133

Exactly. What if Hillary Clinton were Hillary Rodham? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #70

In the 'if' game ... this wins hands down. earthside Nov 2015 #80

One of Bill Clinton's best assets BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #113

But he is always been the more likable one artislife Nov 2015 #126

Most of those who have actually BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #130

That's bull. If Hillary had been born a man, she would have had many more options Empowerer Nov 2015 #128

Exactly this - Lilith Rising Nov 2015 #134

I'm trying to imagine the hairstyle... Nonhlanhla Nov 2015 #32

Trump has already been mocking Hillary's hair. A woman's appearance will always be mocked. pnwmom Nov 2015 #33

As I said above, I don't think if she hadn't been First Lady artislife Nov 2015 #36

She was chosen by a vote of her fellow students to be the commencement speaker pnwmom Nov 2015 #38

A commencement speaker...wow! artislife Nov 2015 #69

I don't know what those other 26 women are doing, but I do know pnwmom Nov 2015 #71

+ a million or so ... BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #114

I agree. I wouldn't support a candidate just for being a woman. However, there are millions pnwmom Nov 2015 #117

Seems like a new low every day. merrily Nov 2015 #37

Let us assume that EW had run and would sadoldgirl Nov 2015 #39

Elizabeth Warren is way different than the Bernice of the OP dsc Nov 2015 #42

Elizabeth has spoken about how careful she has to be as a WOMAN pnwmom Nov 2015 #44

You had some really good replies and some real clunkers too dsc Nov 2015 #40

That and the baby born out of wedlock. When have we ever seen any national pnwmom Nov 2015 #45

fact is I didn't even know that about Sanders dsc Nov 2015 #46

Some complain about the lack of media coverage, but that cuts both ways. pnwmom Nov 2015 #48

The three children from Bernie's second BlueMTexpat Nov 2015 #115

Bernie often reminds me of Bella Abzug Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #41

a couple of things dsc Nov 2015 #50

Not everyone felt the hats were meticulous but that was not my point. He reminds me of her. Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #60

What if Hillary was Hilmer? AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #47

With her progressive record in the Senate, representing a large state, pnwmom Nov 2015 #49

Was for me. I really didn't want Kerry or Biden. But Kerry became the establishment's dog and got... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #66

The question isn't who you or I personally would have voted for. pnwmom Nov 2015 #72

Don't worry Hillary Clinton will get away with it too...and will likely get until into more military Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #73

What if Bernice won the election and her husband had an affair with an intern in the White House. Autumn Nov 2015 #53

Let me see if I understand your reasoning here. rogerashton Nov 2015 #54

No. But I think people should realize what Hillary has been up against. pnwmom Nov 2015 #57

I'd be very happy to be supporting the right woman for President. nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #55

Do you really think so little of Progressive Democrats? Kalidurga Nov 2015 #56

Jane Sanders lost her job at Burlington College due to pnwmom Nov 2015 #58

I think if she had been politically inclined Kalidurga Nov 2015 #62

People often move from University jobs to politics, so that pnwmom Nov 2015 #65

Nope. Try again. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #75

Try what again? I'm responding to someone who said Jane would have been pnwmom Nov 2015 #76

A better question is what if Bernie were Elizabeth Warren...a lot of us would enthusiastically... Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #59

Bingo. The Senator with the positions closest to Eric J in MN Nov 2015 #63

I would rather have a Warren-Sanders ticket. I would like to see a woman be President. It would be.. Bread and Circus Nov 2015 #64

Food for thought mcar Nov 2015 #67

You're welcome. Thanks for thinking about it. n/t pnwmom Nov 2015 #85

Like how you threw non-praciticing Jew in there. I'll be keeping a look out any other "jew" comments Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #74

I noticed that too and she already lumped him in with Netanyahu once before. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #77

Nice to know. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #78

Why is it that calling someone a "Jew" is different from calling them a "Catholic" pnwmom Nov 2015 #84

When have you ever cited Hillary's or O'Malley's religion when discussing them? beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #88

When is the last time you referred to Hillary as a practicing Christian? Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #90

I've frequently referred to her as being a strong or devout Methodist. pnwmom Nov 2015 #91

links? Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #93

I've never seen her refer to Hillary's faith when religion wasn't being discussed. beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #94

Links for what? My own posts? I just wrote one recently, where I talked pnwmom Nov 2015 #95

How do you jump from non-practicing Jew to atheist? Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #111

Because I've seen him described variously as an agnostic or an atheist. pnwmom Nov 2015 #112

I have also discussed her faith. And I have no religion. bravenak Nov 2015 #104

OMG....Max...is that you????? msanthrope Nov 2015 #116

Great post, said lots, this still happens today. Like the remarks "you are only Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #81

Yes. Women couldn't even vote 100 years ago, and all 43 Presidents have been men. pnwmom Nov 2015 #87

I'd still stand with Bernice. Ken Burch Nov 2015 #82

It would be the same ram2008 Nov 2015 #83

Part of the reason Warren is not in the race is because of the difficulty pnwmom Nov 2015 #86

Umm, a woman is the frontrunner though ram2008 Nov 2015 #89

Right now she is but there are no guarantees, as you know. pnwmom Nov 2015 #92

No. She's not in the race because the DNC had already crowned Hillary davidn3600 Nov 2015 #118

Warren signed a letter urging HRC to run. She's never shown a bit of personal interest pnwmom Nov 2015 #119

lolwut melman Nov 2015 #96

What if Hillary was a social-democrat supporting the same positions as Bernie - would make that make Douglas Carpenter Nov 2015 #98

I nearly got my IQ lowered when I read this post. Aerows Nov 2015 #100

Me too. Cleita Nov 2015 #101

It's not wrong. joshcryer Nov 2015 #103

Click Baity = awesome DU username ... I -like- it !! Hiraeth Nov 2015 #125

Hillary gets plenty of support The stuff with Bill's escapades really haven't harmed her politically phleshdef Nov 2015 #105

I believe that gender is not a factor for you personally. pnwmom Nov 2015 #106

Perhaps cultural issues with gender might hinder "Bernice". Though it depends on how good... phleshdef Nov 2015 #109

She is a former Senator of a large state AND a former Secretary of State. pnwmom Nov 2015 #123

I promise you this, if Bernie OR Bernice was gay or trans they would not be considered for any Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth Nov 2015 #122

Excellent "shoe on the other foot" analysis Empowerer Nov 2015 #127

So it IS all about gender then. If your fantasy candidate were the BEST candidate, I'd vote for her. cherokeeprogressive Nov 2015 #131