2016 Postmortem

raouldukelives

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63. Unlike some candidates, he has always stood against war only for personal gain.

Fri Dec 11, 2015, 10:46 AM

Dec 2015

Against imprisoning the least among us for more wealth. Against allowing corporations to make our planet inhospitable to life itself.

Sure, I fear ISIS. I fear those who fund them and give weapons to them. I fear those who worry more about a few radicals with machine guns than the many warnings from our scientific community that we are doing far more damage just going about our daily lives than they could hope to in a thousand years.

It is our avarice, our ignorance, our labors, that have led to the rise of climate change and ISIS. It is only fitting those who got us here wold think more of the same is our best bet.

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Bernie Sanders Has Stuck To The Same Message For 40 Years [View all] Live and Learn Dec 2015 OP

This, IMO, is Bernie's key shortcoming: firebrand80 Dec 2015 #1

No thanks, I'll take Bernie just the way he is, genuine and correct! nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #2

And 35% of Dems agree with you nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #12

Not what I see at all. In fact, what I have seen on the streets is that less than 35% Live and Learn Dec 2015 #14

I can't argue with science nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #16

wrong spot nt Javaman Dec 2015 #48

so by your logic... Javaman Dec 2015 #50

Like I said, it's a balance nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #66

fluff over substance isn't a "balance" nt Javaman Dec 2015 #90

I didn't say he should putt fluff over substance firebrand80 Dec 2015 #92

I like him just the way he his and so does a large portion of the thinking population. Javaman Dec 2015 #93

sounds like the makings of a losing candidate firebrand80 Dec 2015 #94

LOL I won't go there and I won't take the bait. Javaman Dec 2015 #95

Large chunks of the 63% also agree eridani Dec 2015 #55

Agree. From what works for families to the evil that is Wall Street to an illegal war on Iraq` Ferd Berfel Dec 2015 #97

You are wrong.... daleanime Dec 2015 #8

It can be a strength, but you have to get the balance right nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #13

The balance between the real causes of ISIS that Hillary helped create Live and Learn Dec 2015 #15

Of which he has plenty..... daleanime Dec 2015 #17

This has nothing to do with "me." firebrand80 Dec 2015 #18

I wish he'd lighten up a little too....but I'll take him as he is Armstead Dec 2015 #46

I remember the first debate firebrand80 Dec 2015 #49

If 90 mph is what is needed..... Armstead Dec 2015 #53

I agree that he has a certain charm firebrand80 Dec 2015 #70

right, because that plays better on tv. Javaman Dec 2015 #47

You don't have to like it firebrand80 Dec 2015 #72

so go with the next American idol. Javaman Dec 2015 #91

So, has anything improved in the past 40 years? Are we to ignore this inconvenient truth? Proserpina Dec 2015 #56

So he should what, be more phony? Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #57

I wouldn't say "phony" firebrand80 Dec 2015 #67

But where he stands is who he is Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #96

Consistency in basic core values is a short coming? AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #59

of course not firebrand80 Dec 2015 #68

His positions are rooted in his values AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #73

You're missing my point firebrand80 Dec 2015 #76

In other words... 99Forever Dec 2015 #65

He doesn't have to be dishonest firebrand80 Dec 2015 #69

Ahh bullshit. 99Forever Dec 2015 #74

I'm not selling anything firebrand80 Dec 2015 #75

Yet... 99Forever Dec 2015 #79

I didn't realize that replying to a DU post firebrand80 Dec 2015 #80

Careful buddy... 99Forever Dec 2015 #81

I'll wear pants next time nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #82

ROFL That was funny but you are still wrong. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #84

Big part of the issue. One track mind. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #3

Sure, flip-flopping on issues is the correct way to campaign. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #6

I am not asking him to flip flop. Not sure where you got that from. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #7

Nobody living in fear of poverty is more worried about ISIS than every day survival. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #9

I have no clue why you are now talking ISIL. No clue. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #11

Bernie came out for a path to citizenship long before Hillary. Or has she even? Hard to keep up Live and Learn Dec 2015 #19

Glad you have moved on from ISIS. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #20

Your facts are just that, yours alone. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #22

They are facts. Interesting you don't recognize them as such. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #23

These are facts: Live and Learn Dec 2015 #24

Sanders has voted against a pathway to citizenship multiple times. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #25

Not true. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #27

Bernie Sanders' Thanksgiving Day Message Sadly Reminds Voters That Immigration Keeps Too Many Famili Live and Learn Dec 2015 #29

I am so happy he is evolving. Truly am. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #30

Wrong, quite consistent. That was your original complaint, remember? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #31

I think he is consistent. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #32

The article was obviously referring to his refusal to give in to terrorsim. Live and Learn Dec 2015 #33

Back to terrorism agains. What in the world. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #34

Do you keep up with current events? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #35

Terror Terror Terror!!!!! NCTraveler Dec 2015 #36

Because, he knows what causes it. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #37

A basic problem in our system is.... Armstead Dec 2015 #54

Lipstick on flip flopping fish AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #60

Exactly what he is doing with his rhetoric. Very precise. Well done. nt. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #61

There have been lots of changes in 40 years, keeping one's feet stuck in cement Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #4

It is and always has been about economics. Follow the money... Live and Learn Dec 2015 #5

A president has to be knowledgeable in many areas, finaniced is a small Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #38

"...finaniced [sic] is a small Part [sic] of the job," really? You fail to grasp Live and Learn Dec 2015 #41

I did not fail to grasp, I stated there are more areas a president has to work Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #42

i really don't think you get it. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #43

I get it, a president is not a one issue. Never was and never will be. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #52

You don't. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #85

Yes, I get it, I understand a president has to be the leader of the US and it requires lots of Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #86

Nope, you still don't. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #87

Well, you stick to a candidate who is only interested in finances, I will go with one who Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #88

That would still be Bernie. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #89

It's bullshit that he is incapable of multitasking Armstead Dec 2015 #51

He is consistent. I love that. He is no warmongerer either. nc4bo Dec 2015 #45

Yup. nt Skidmore Dec 2015 #10

Nup. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #21

Another positive Americans need in a President is, Senator Sanders is a man of Peace. Sunlei Dec 2015 #26

Yes he is. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #28

He has voted for military action several times. He has stated recently he Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #39

yes we need to defend ourselves & use best new Tech. but I don't think Sanders is a warmonger. Sunlei Dec 2015 #40

Like Obama, you mean? nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #44

And that is Exactly why I will be voting for him madokie Dec 2015 #58

You need an OP to say he is a one issue candidate? cosmicone Dec 2015 #62

Unlike some candidates, he has always stood against war only for personal gain. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #63

That's possible when you are on the ethical, moral side of issues. 99Forever Dec 2015 #64

his message comes from wisdom olddots Dec 2015 #71

K&R. I can trust Bernie. Can't trust weathervane Hillary. CharlotteVale Dec 2015 #77

And because of this fact fredamae Dec 2015 #78

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #83

The story is traveling-->The Union Leader of NH has the story .... riversedge Dec 2015 #98

Good to know. Thanks. nt Live and Learn Dec 2015 #99