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magical thyme

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39. you said he handled it badly. what could he have done differently?

Fri Dec 18, 2015, 09:33 AM

Dec 2015

if you judge someboy's performance as bad, that presumes you have ideas about what could or should have been done differently.

that you can't answer that tells me you're simply throwing mud.

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Nothing is ever the Sanders campaign's fault. [View all] NuclearDem Dec 2015 OP

So they say.. but, they did fire their national data director, Josh Uretsky. So what's up with Cha Dec 2015 #1

Don't forget, he was originally referred to as a "low level staffer" and they STILL refer to him as. George II Dec 2015 #107

Looookeee Here....Free Data Alfresco Dec 2015 #111

See.. that's what I don't get, either.. why refer to Josh Uretsky as a "low level staffer" when Cha Dec 2015 #119

Haha. I now visit DU to read boston bean Dec 2015 #2

Great summary. You..... quickesst Dec 2015 #3

It's Logical Fallacy Day, everybody! MrMickeysMom Dec 2015 #4

Berniegate! 72DejaVu Dec 2015 #5

k&r baldguy Dec 2015 #6

Pretty much sums it up BumRushDaShow Dec 2015 #7

points 1 through 7 have nothing to do with Bernie messing anything up retrowire Dec 2015 #8

Bernie's campaign has to own their own talking points. yardwork Dec 2015 #15

So yeah the OP was right VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #35

Oh the irony. [nt] Jester Messiah Dec 2015 #40

No... it's because some of us here actually understand data security. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #90

So yeah the OP was right VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #35

How is firing a top staffer deflection? Armstead Dec 2015 #46

Then own it and stop the blame game like a kid who blames the dog for missing homework. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #66

fellow Democrats? VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #26

+1 Skidmore Dec 2015 #33

+10 okasha Dec 2015 #115

Most thin-skinned campaign in history. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #9

That's amost to be expected ... NurseJackie Dec 2015 #58

+1000 YoungDemCA Dec 2015 #98

Am I the only one that wonders if the screams that the "corporate media" won't pay him any attention Number23 Dec 2015 #117

Apparently he did have a problem and he dealt with it promptly. Vinca Dec 2015 #10

He dealt with it promptly after his campaign got caught, apparently. yardwork Dec 2015 #12

no. his campaign notified the DNC of the firewall issue, the breach and the firing. magical thyme Dec 2015 #20

Either way, looks like he handled this badly. yardwork Dec 2015 #23

how? Should he have notified the press months ago that DNC firewall s/w wasn't working? magical thyme Dec 2015 #31

I'm not the one running for president. He's the one in charge. yardwork Dec 2015 #38

you said he handled it badly. what could he have done differently? magical thyme Dec 2015 #39

No, I get to decide if I don't trust a candidate to handle things. yardwork Dec 2015 #50

you say he fucked up. I'm asking in what way did he fuck up? magical thyme Dec 2015 #73

The poster can't answer the question. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #92

Their script didn't include an answer to your question n/t arcane1 Dec 2015 #101

A Bernie campaign person accessed data he wasn't supposed to. upaloopa Dec 2015 #47

He should have stopped it by providing the heisted data that misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #64

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #45

good question. nt magical thyme Dec 2015 #71

No. n/t JTFrog Dec 2015 #91

The company reports that it told the DNC of the breach first... Not Sanders campaign uponit7771 Dec 2015 #48

in which case, Sanders' campaign still did the right thing on being notified of the breach. magical thyme Dec 2015 #72

So maybe Hillary's team has done the same thing and hasn't gotten caught. You can't be sure. Vinca Dec 2015 #86

Just hoping his people doing wrong does not become Clinton vilified. Asking too much? seabeyond Dec 2015 #18

The fellow he fired says he was innocent. msrizzo Dec 2015 #34

Laughing out loud and ROTFLMAO yardwork Dec 2015 #11

"DWS DNC WTF TCP/IP LOL" sufrommich Dec 2015 #13

Great Post, Thanks. Alfresco Dec 2015 #14

Nothing is ever the Sanders campaign's fault. tecelote Dec 2015 #16

Because she is Eve... EOM Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #54

Perfect... SidDithers Dec 2015 #17

I can't wait for Super Tuesday Coolest Ranger Dec 2015 #19

I agree Gothmog Dec 2015 #69

The DNC, sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #21

Uh no....Sanders campaign got caught with the proverbial hand in the cookie jar VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #28

So you're saying the baker sulphurdunn Dec 2015 #43

So if you find a wallet on the ground... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #44

Nope, Sander's data director said the DNC called him first that's in quotes uponit7771 Dec 2015 #51

I expected this kind of post to happen come Super Tuesday but the earlier the better I guess. upaloopa Dec 2015 #37

No. The Sanders campaign accessed data they had no right to access. MADem Dec 2015 #41

The vendor accidentally gave them the right. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #97

Result LiberalArkie Dec 2015 #74

I am voting for Bernie Cosmocat Dec 2015 #22

Same here rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #83

The thought pops up for me Cosmocat Dec 2015 #105

You and rjsquirrel's posts should be OPs. There are too many other Sanders supporters here that have Number23 Dec 2015 #118

I tried Cosmocat Dec 2015 #122

I know. For a good while there, Sanders SUPPORTERS were getting almost as much publicity as Number23 Dec 2015 #123

If a Clinton staffer had done this can you imagine the shrieking? Starry Messenger Dec 2015 #24

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2015 #52

It would be deafening. EOM Nonhlanhla Dec 2015 #56

The howls of indignation. wildeyed Dec 2015 #100

K&R! stonecutter357 Dec 2015 #25

As I read the OP's and threads this morning it seems to me the Bernie campaign on this board upaloopa Dec 2015 #27

K&R VanillaRhapsody Dec 2015 #29

That's it, in a nutshell--well articulated. nt MADem Dec 2015 #30

K AND R! JaneyVee Dec 2015 #32

K & R, great post, plain spoken. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #42

Bullshit. Firing a top staffer is not deflecting blame. Armstead Dec 2015 #49

The date of Directors said the DNC called him first he did not report it to the DNC at all uponit7771 Dec 2015 #53

Meanspiritedness can leave someone mmonk Dec 2015 #55

Oh noos, another thinly veiled threat not to vote! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #63

Not a threat. Human nature. mmonk Dec 2015 #65

Are you referring to revenge? MoonRiver Dec 2015 #81

It's not in people's nature to care for mmonk Dec 2015 #84

"Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!!" AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #57

lol nt LWolf Dec 2015 #60

Um, that's "Marcia, Marcia, Marcia"... brooklynite Dec 2015 #80

lol AgingAmerican Dec 2015 #87

I recently made this exact point, just not as well. NCTraveler Dec 2015 #59

OP of the Month! I see the bernie pity party is surging..but..but..but misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #61

It's incredible how this is getting played ! treestar Dec 2015 #62

Amazing and accurate OP Gothmog Dec 2015 #67

Thank you for taking the hide risk in posting this. MohRokTah Dec 2015 #68

Has the jury spoken on this thread yet? Gothmog Dec 2015 #95

It's true rjsquirrel Dec 2015 #70

It's still amazing to see how deeply one has to dig into this shoestring campaign to find errors... Orsino Dec 2015 #75

Nice try at changing the subject redstateblues Dec 2015 #78

It seemed that the subject was straw-manning. Orsino Dec 2015 #79

The berners blame game... Alfresco Dec 2015 #76

Yeah ismnotwasm Dec 2015 #77

K and R MrWendel Dec 2015 #82

That sums it up very well BainsBane Dec 2015 #85

A great read. Thank you for taking the time. K & R nt Persondem Dec 2015 #88

Well, in this instance, he didn't. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #89

The Sanders campaign downloaded or exported proprietary information Gothmog Dec 2015 #93

No - they didn't download anything. Fawke Em Dec 2015 #96

See this.. yes, the sanders camp saved some data.. riversedge Dec 2015 #103

Sanders Accounts Saved Clinton Data During Breach, Audit Says Gothmog Dec 2015 #104

You're behind on this brush Dec 2015 #128

That still doesn't mean view data that is known to be private and not belonging to the Sanders ... uponit7771 Dec 2015 #99

Ain't that the truth? workinclasszero Dec 2015 #94

Sanders and his supporters got what they wanted.... revmclaren Dec 2015 #102

"Hey, they left the keys in the car, it was a plot to make me steal it!!!1!1! SunSeeker Dec 2015 #106

K&R x 1000! Great post redstateblues Dec 2015 #108

Martin is my next choice (A Democrat for much longer than Bernie was). Dawson Leery Dec 2015 #109

Kick! Bobbie Jo Dec 2015 #110

Weaver isn't excusing the relevant staffers' actions. Vattel Dec 2015 #112

K & R!!! NanceGreggs Dec 2015 #113

Statement of the Clinton campaign Gothmog Dec 2015 #114

I abbolutely have to rec this. And even in the face that Bernie's campaign is the one that did the Number23 Dec 2015 #116

It is like Bernie supporters are being groomed by applegrove Dec 2015 #120

Self-Righteous Kick Alfresco Dec 2015 #121

Excellent thread! R B Garr Dec 2015 #124

A needed timely kick. Alfresco Dec 2015 #125

Thank you! RandySF Dec 2015 #126

Only in the minds of Sanders supporters. MineralMan Dec 2015 #127