2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Even if Bernie Sanders doesn't win the primary, he has given every indication that he will [View all]Jarqui
(10,110 posts)The problem is, the messenger didn't utter the lies, Hillary did.
The messenger didn't make up sniper fire in Bosnia to pad her scant 2008 foreign policy experience the media was questioning when she claimed she was ready to take that 3AM call ... because she couldn't provide a credible example in her career of when she took a 3AM call ever before. And she followed it with a lie about being integral to the peace process in Ireland (Good Friday Agreement). The media didn't create that deception - Hillary did all by herself.
The media didn't create the lie nor the memo that exposed her lie in Travelgate. All William Safire really did in that article, like many in the media did, was report it as an example of her lying. He was backing up his assertion that she is a "congenital liar" with real indisputable examples of her lying and deceptions.
Same with this
"The records show Hillary Clinton was lying when she denied actively representing a criminal enterprise known as the Madison S.& L., and indicate she may have conspired with Web Hubbell's father-in-law to make a sham land deal that cost taxpayers $3 million."William Safire didn't create those records or that lie that those records proved as such. Like many in the media, he just reported on it.
"Shame on you, Barack Obama" for maintaining she had previously supported NAFTA was a LIE. She tried to spin the same crap to Tim Russert. But the proof came out that she had supported NAFTA as First Lady both in documents and video. Again, that's no one else's fault but Hillary's.
Fast forward to recently: four family members of Benghazi victims separately came out to various left and right wing media to report that Hillary lied to them. That's not the media out to get Hillary. That's four different family members of three different families pissed off Hillary lied to them. Of course, the only thing to do is "deny, deny, deny".
On the emails:
The server contains personal communications from my husband and me LIE: her husband doesn't use email
"easier to carry one device for my work instead of two." LIE: she did carry two and use two or more for work
Ive never had a subpoena LIE: the House produced the subpoena
"everything I did was permitted" LIE: Washington Post gave three Pinocchios with their explanation
Now her personal IT guys emails are missing at the State Department in their backups, from her server and those backups and from his state department computer for only the time when Hillary was at the State Department. He's taking the 5th. Why not say "I just setup Hillary's personal server at her request." ? This is not honest and forthright behavior in the face of stuff that should be there and is missing in several places. But Clinton supporters blame the media for reporting that and think the rest of us are so stupid, we'll fall for "it's all the media's fault. Hillary and her poor IT guy that was paid roughly $10,000 less than Hillary as Secretary of State plus paid privately, bear no responsibility for all this stuff that's been deleted and is missing".
We get it. "Shoot the messengers! Hillary takes no responsibility for anything she says or does when lying and deception are involved!!! And the media is horrible for reporting it!"