2016 Postmortem

lewebley3

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134. But: Bill won twice: and he benefitted by great team work with DNC

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Bernie Sanders is too extreme for America [View all] Scuba Dec 2015 OP

My kind of extreme. 99Forever Dec 2015 #1

+1 daleanime Dec 2015 #12

Sanders is not a Dem: He will considered commie by the GOP lewebley3 Dec 2015 #38

I don't give a fuck what Teapublicans think or say. period 99Forever Dec 2015 #41

That poster is suspect, and comes off as a republican. JRLeft Dec 2015 #46

Quite. kath Jan 2016 #175

I'm convinced the poster is a troll. JRLeft Jan 2016 #178

+1000 Karma13612 Dec 2015 #71

guys you shouldn't feed trolls navarth Dec 2015 #87

I may be letting my navy vet flag fly.... Docreed2003 Dec 2015 #105

That is your opinion INdemo Dec 2015 #42

We should let them pick our nominee why now? TDale313 Dec 2015 #51

Picking Sanders is like picking McGvoern: a 49 state loss: McGovern was lewebley3 Dec 2015 #55

Different person, different personality, different communicator, different time. TryLogic Dec 2015 #56

a horrible comparison Roy Ellefson Dec 2015 #60

Just the truth: McGovern was even more accomplished then Sanders lewebley3 Dec 2015 #66

not even close to the truth Roy Ellefson Dec 2015 #69

No: he was not right for most American's: like Sander left winger is not right lewebley3 Dec 2015 #76

I think you missed something important. kristopher Dec 2015 #117

You are, and have been for years, one of the best "posters" on the DU. ladjf Dec 2015 #127

Tricky Dick dedicated his life to help Women? He was a pro Gay rights and pro minority randys1 Jan 2016 #176

True comparison: Dems have learned from their mistakes: Hillary is ready lewebley3 Dec 2015 #136

A Different Time Today... Different Result! Watch Iowa And NH... fer Starters... CorporatistNation Dec 2015 #96

And here's the other thing about that Volaris Dec 2015 #109

And how will Clinton be considered bvf Dec 2015 #92

So millions of new voters wont show up specifically to elect our first Woman prez? randys1 Jan 2016 #177

No, only Hill people floriduck Dec 2015 #95

Sanders gave no supporting speeches to the Dem party until he want to run for President lewebley3 Jan 2016 #154

Anyone "considered a commie" by the GOP John Poet Dec 2015 #100

Its not Americas guy: Amercia's guy is middle of the road lewebley3 Jan 2016 #155

uh oh... Bradical79 Dec 2015 #110

And should Hillary win, she will be greeted with rose petals and chocolates by the repubs corkhead Dec 2015 #119

Are you really Yoda? tularetom Dec 2015 #151

Sanders is not a Dem: He is socialist: Americans reject him lewebley3 Dec 2015 #57

Name calling again without any depth of reasoning beyond that again... Desperation shows!!! cascadiance Dec 2015 #62

Its not a name its what he has called himself for 72 years: just a fact lewebley3 Dec 2015 #63

He's been doing more than just calling himself names for his career... cascadiance Dec 2015 #65

He loved the name: until he decide he wanted to the Dem nominee lewebley3 Dec 2015 #68

Rich socialist term is an oxymoron, which appears to reflect your FLAWED thinking.... cascadiance Dec 2015 #97

He has not turned his back on the name, but you're getting it wrong boobooday Dec 2015 #121

Democratic Party means the government works for people: not socialist lewebley3 Dec 2015 #135

You just showed that you really don't understand the real meaning of socialism... cascadiance Dec 2015 #149

Yes, I do, and so do most American know the meaning of socialism lewebley3 Jan 2016 #153

If they do, then what is about it that they will vote against in your opinion... cascadiance Jan 2016 #159

I guess all American's are dumb or elites that reject Sanders lewebley3 Jan 2016 #162

You still seem incapable of explaining WHY being a socialist is bad... cascadiance Jan 2016 #169

The rest of time he was just a big talker: Let other people carry water lewebley3 Dec 2015 #77

The only place I've heard anyone mention Socialist madokie Dec 2015 #91

Bernice's socialist baggage redstateblues Dec 2015 #103

What ever you think madokie Dec 2015 #107

Get used to hearing redstateblues Dec 2015 #131

Desperate BS which is WRONG! Polls show Bernie does better in the General Election... cascadiance Dec 2015 #150

Everyone knows what a socialist is: No depth of thinking is required lewebley3 Dec 2015 #138

A loyal Dem (a TRADITIONAL values Dem) would embrace many aspects of socialist philosophy... cascadiance Dec 2015 #148

Its is not name calling: and the Depth has been Sanders career lewebley3 Jan 2016 #165

Asked and answered. 99Forever Dec 2015 #72

Sanders own unforce er lewebley3 Dec 2015 #75

I have no idea what you are trying to say. 99Forever Dec 2015 #80

Yes you do lewebley3 Dec 2015 #84

No sir, I actually don't. 99Forever Dec 2015 #86

Your rhetoric hasn't changed lewebley3 Jan 2016 #168

This message was self-deleted by its author c588415 Dec 2015 #74

Ho Hum... ChiciB1 Dec 2015 #93

Bernie reminds me a lot of Bobby Kennedy Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #157

Oh, Bobby Kennedy... Memories Of My Broken Heart! ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #160

I do, too Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #161

Oh, The Memories! What's Even Worse When Thinking ChiciB1 Jan 2016 #170

Great post! Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #174

I don't give a fuck sammythecat Dec 2015 #94

Vulgarism makes you look like a limited thinker: You statment looks lewebley3 Dec 2015 #137

Oh. I'm disappointed. sammythecat Dec 2015 #147

Neither do most American's: That is why most Americans a Dem lewebley3 Jan 2016 #164

Holy shit; you're right! Orsino Jan 2016 #163

Same as Trump lewebley3 Jan 2016 #166

This is nothing new firebrand80 Dec 2015 #2

Wrong. We have no idea how a far left liberal will do if elected President. Dawgs Dec 2015 #3

That's kinda my point firebrand80 Dec 2015 #4

When was the last time a far left candidate got plastered in the GE? Dawgs Dec 2015 #5

Mondale, then Dukakis firebrand80 Dec 2015 #6

Neither Mondale nor Dukakis were left liberals. That's a smear with no basis in reality. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #14

Nixon? I think you mean Reagan geardaddy Dec 2015 #16

Thanks. You're right of course. Correcting it now. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #19

You're welcome geardaddy Dec 2015 #21

BY today's standards, Nixon would be a flaming liberal ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #35

So would Eisenhower and Teddy Roosevelt davidpdx Dec 2015 #104

True ChairmanAgnostic Dec 2015 #143

Yup. geardaddy Dec 2015 #146

Mondale, Dukakis , Nader, and Sanders are same: The Clintons know how to win lewebley3 Dec 2015 #39

Bill Clinton benefitted from Perot in both elections ybbor Dec 2015 #47

Bullshit. Clinton would have won if they were two-person races. No question. RBInMaine Dec 2015 #48

This argument has "that giant sucking sound." Eleanors38 Dec 2015 #52

Nope! It would have depended on where the anti-NAFTA voters went then... cascadiance Jan 2016 #171

But: Bill won twice: and he benefitted by great team work with DNC lewebley3 Dec 2015 #134

Stuff and nonsense. Bill won in '92 with far less than a majority because Perot siphoned votes ... hedda_foil Dec 2015 #111

But Bill did win: and he was considered too left wing: too liberal lewebley3 Dec 2015 #133

No. That was a Gingrich meme. It had nothing to do with Dems and Dem leaners hedda_foil Dec 2015 #139

Yes, it does: its a reality the Sanders people like the Mcgoven supporters lewebley3 Dec 2015 #140

Try looking a little deeper than these superficial memes. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #142

No superficiallly at all: its History: The Clintons learned and Dems won lewebley3 Dec 2015 #144

The polite term for the type of behavior in which you are indulging is propaganda. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #145

How many elections has HRC won? tazkcmo Dec 2015 #122

Hillary has never been beat by the GOP lewebley3 Dec 2015 #132

She's only run for office against Republicans twice Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #158

The Clintons won in red state: As Dem's lewebley3 Jan 2016 #167

I like Dukakis, but he had little "fire in the belly"--certainly Bernie has a lot of that fire! Akamai Dec 2015 #54

And the media so ignored Kucinich, most Americans have STILL never heard of him. Fuddnik Dec 2015 #20

The media !! TryLogic Dec 2015 #58

Bernie's policies are actually down the middle. Only Bill Oreily calls it far left litlbilly Dec 2015 #7

And Hillary Old Codger Dec 2015 #8

Bernie's best laugh line was calling Ike a 'Socialist'. I'm sure even Ike KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #10

Total and complete BULLSHIT. This is mega-left non-reality. RBInMaine Dec 2015 #49

Maybe Old Codger Dec 2015 #50

wow, you are sure living in a bubble LiberalLovinLug Dec 2015 #78

No I am Dem: I call Sanders far left and many Dem's do lewebley3 Dec 2015 #40

huh? Roy Ellefson Dec 2015 #61

Which "Far left candiates" were "plastered in the GE"? daleanime Dec 2015 #13

We never had an African American elected either! And we need a Progressive like Sanders. Duval Dec 2015 #36

FDR was NOT a 'far-left liberal'. In 1932, he ran as a moderate. Actually, 'far-left KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #9

Uh, okay. n/t Dawgs Dec 2015 #17

in other words, you can't really dispute the facts in the matter stupidicus Dec 2015 #24

I did what now? nt firebrand80 Dec 2015 #26

if plain and simple english is inadequate stupidicus Dec 2015 #28

the DLC was partially funded by the Koch brothers ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #33

The "center" is what the OP was all abiout Armstead Dec 2015 #85

People want change. If the Republican nominee promises change and our nominee promises status quo, Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #11

Yep, and I'm over and done with letting the Rightwingers own Populism demwing Dec 2015 #18

Exactly! Rightwing populism beats centrist establishment corporatism but loses to real progressive Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #30

precisely, and this is why Hillary is a risky candidate demwing Dec 2015 #32

This was obvious at work with Rubio's comments on H-1B in the Republican debate... cascadiance Dec 2015 #64

And yet... reACTIONary Dec 2015 #59

If the nation of voters LWolf Dec 2015 #15

That was exceptionally well said. [n/t] Maedhros Dec 2015 #53

Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Dec 2015 #22

Imagine if the Democrats actually supported policies like this instead of branding itself Feeling the Bern Dec 2015 #23

K & R ! TIME TO PANIC Dec 2015 #25

well, that rightwing/thirdwayer "this is a center/right country!" myth stupidicus Dec 2015 #27

The only kiss those cousins can give is the kiss of death. hedda_foil Dec 2015 #112

Did "Progressive Change Institute" ask the same likely 2016 voters the same or similar questions... George II Dec 2015 #29

Hillary: ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #34

What does that have to do with my post? Did your stuff answer my questions? George II Dec 2015 #45

I'm sorry I didn't make my post clearer- ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #67

You left out several straw men redstateblues Dec 2015 #102

the DLC was partially funded by the Koch Brothers - ish of the hammer Dec 2015 #141

It appears the questions are about policy, not candidates. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #98

Here's the graphic again...look it over.. George II Dec 2015 #99

"Do you support policy X" is not a question involving candidates. Scootaloo Dec 2015 #101

Confused? Me? Not a chance. But that chart doesn't say or ask.... George II Dec 2015 #129

I'm linking to that graphic yurbud Jan 2016 #152

Only in the minds of right wingers PowerToThePeople Dec 2015 #31

I was happy to see a right wing troll with bad grammar wial Dec 2015 #37

There are a couple (at least) like that on DU, I wouldn't hide them if you paid me. n/t A Simple Game Dec 2015 #44

The extreme meme! Helen Borg Dec 2015 #43

Yes, but Hillary has an "Aura of competence" Doctor_J Dec 2015 #70

And a lot of people would settle for that, bvf Dec 2015 #90

Huh... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #130

yah, boy, he's some kinda wakko. nilram Dec 2015 #73

He's "too extreme" for the elites who believe they own America deutsey Dec 2015 #79

Looks like America is too extreme for TPTB. nt valerief Dec 2015 #81

Too extreme for the same old same old, not for saving our Democracy from the 1% . orpupilofnature57 Dec 2015 #82

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Dec 2015 #83

He's so extreme, there's a media black-out re Bernie so nobody will be hurt by him... polichick Dec 2015 #88

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2015 #89

I'm stealing this to put on my Facebook page davidpdx Dec 2015 #106

knr Douglas Carpenter Dec 2015 #108

Despite the bs, America is a liberal nation. Let's talk polls: merrily Dec 2015 #113

Iwon der if the people conducting these polls jamzrockz Dec 2015 #114

You obviously are not old enough to remember that we used to have a program of "almost free" college newthinking Dec 2015 #118

I am sure the situation is different now jamzrockz Dec 2015 #123

The sales tax on Wall Street transactions that are sometime thousands per second are supported DhhD Dec 2015 #125

I am not saying we shouldn't implement the jamzrockz Dec 2015 #128

You do know that the collective college debt recently became larger than collective credit card debt cascadiance Jan 2016 #172

They said the same about FDR and his policies SacProgressive Dec 2015 #115

K&R for truth. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #116

K&R We live in the most reality Wall St shareholders will allow. raouldukelives Dec 2015 #120

Unfortunately for us, some on the green side will vote Republican because Vinca Dec 2015 #124

Good post. nt ladjf Dec 2015 #126

No, he's not too extreme for America. He's just not a Democrat and is only one now that he needs... Hekate Jan 2016 #156

Correction. He's one now because we don't have instant runoff voting to avoid the RIGGED system... cascadiance Jan 2016 #173