Populist Reform of the Democratic Party
In reply to the discussion: Why is it so very important to Clinton supporters that [View all]NanceGreggs
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that everyone else believe that HRC cannot win in the general election? All polls and surveys point to the opposite thus far. So why the insistence that if nominated, she cant win? Ive yet to see anyone here state that nobody else could possibly run and win the Democratic nomination. But surely you have many links to that being said - right?
So many threads are the same, basically: She thinks shes entitled, she thinks its her turn. Does anyone have any links to actual quotes from Hill expressing those ideas? No, of course not. Some here feel perfectly comfortable attributing thoughts and ideas to someone who has never expressed them, so long as it serves their purpose.
It is perfectly understandable that there are those who dont want Hill to be the nominee. What flies in the face of the logic of many of them, however, is the notion that consistently tearing down a very popular potential nominee will somehow pave the way for their chosen candidate a candidate theyve yet to identify at this juncture.
The anyone but Hillary crowd well, the name speaks for itself. I know I dont want Hillary but dont ask me WHO I want, because I dont know. Well, when they DO know, maybe theyll be able to express exactly why their choice is better than Hill. Until that momentous occasion arises, I suppose were all supposed to sit on the sidelines and wait for them to make up their minds.
No one here has stated that HRC is inevitable. That meme was promoted by the MSM back in 2008, and has been resurrected out of the sheer laziness that our present-day so-called "journalists" have become famous for. Its surprising to see how many DUers, who consistently boast of not being influenced by the useless mainstream media, have adopted that claim as being factual in respect of Hill, or in respect of the Party as a whole.
This site has been replete with posts about coronations and dispensing with a primary. Where does this shit come from? Who said anything about skipping the primaries and handing the nomination to the anointed one? No one, thats who. And yet that bullshit is repeated here constantly as though it were fact.
Her name is Hillary, candidate of candidates: Look on her works, ye Proles, and despair! Has anyone here actually said that, or anything remotely like it? Of course not. But lets pretend that such statements have been made, and go from there because facts should never interfere with an OP that rallies the gullible, who will literally swallow anything.
The facts are the facts. HRC polls better against all GOP contenders. Reiterating that FACT does not equate to no others need apply; it does it mean that another potential candidate is precluded from running. Nor does it mean that another potential candidate couldnt surpass Hills current numbers against all Republican wannabes, and emerge as an even more viable candidate against the opposition.
But until that happens, the incessant whining from the anyone but Hillary contingent is pointless. If they have someone who has the potential to win in 2016, lets hear about him/her. If they have someone who polls better against the opposition, were all ears. But thus far, they dont. And watch this space, which will eventually be filled by the perfect Dem candidate really doesnt cut it.
Its amusing to watch all of the same people who have for years berated the Republicans for campaigning only on whats wrong with the (D) contenders, instead of focusing on the positives of their own candidates, now adopting that same strategy. Heres why you shouldnt support HRC is a poor substitution for why we should support to be announced eventually as soon as we get our shit together.
HRCs run in 2016 was predicted and fully expected within minutes of her concession speech in 2008 acknowledging that Obama was the choice of the people. The fact that it is only NOW that her detractors are scurrying to find someone else anyone else to challenge her at what is, in political terms, the last minute speaks for itself.
But by all means, please continue to insist that HRC supporters have stated that "no one else could possibly run and win the Democratic nomination" - because we wouldn't want actual facts to interfere with your fact-free proclamations.