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The Velveteen Ocelot

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30. Where did I say I was supporting Biden? I'm still undecided,
Sun May 26, 2019, 07:36 PM
May 2019

but my decision will be made on the basis of which of the candidates is likely to receive the support of enough people (not just the ideologically pure) to defeat Trump. All of the Democrats support the basic principles that the party has advocated for years. One of my "values," for example, is universal healthcare - ideally, Medicare for all. But if Trump is re-elected there will be no Medicare for All, no universal health care of any kind, and we could wind up with Medicare for Nobody. Fear isn't a "value" but if another four years of Trump doesn't scare the crap out of you, you're not paying attention.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Donald Trump is a racist pig just like the far right ! stonecutter357 May 2019 #1
We should all vote like our lives depend on it, abqtommy May 2019 #2
The blue wave elected people who represented the majorities Hortensis May 2019 #3
Yes, some people think Trump is far right because it's LuvNewcastle May 2019 #8
Yes. He learned long ago by positive feedback where to Hortensis May 2019 #10
A majority of people Turin_C3PO May 2019 #24
Fwiw, universal healthcare is in the mainstream, has been for Hortensis May 2019 #25
2018 midterms Vidal May 2019 #4
Exactly.. what I said down thread.. Cha May 2019 #14
it is good to see the world from a deplorables perspective rampartc May 2019 #5
i agree. barbtries May 2019 #6
Policies matter but so do temperment and search for the truth. lark May 2019 #7
There's nothing so dangerous as a young, ignorant social studies teacher. Really. Efilroft Sul May 2019 #9
To paraphrase, if the far right think you're far right... nolabear May 2019 #11
Interesting discussion. Laelth May 2019 #12
I call BULL! trump is the Anti-Christ.. Cha May 2019 #13
By moderates eh? progressoid May 2019 #17
Yes, the majority of those who Cha May 2019 #19
Cool. I see you're gone from 45 seats flipped by moderates, progressoid May 2019 #21
I see you're deflecting from what I Cha May 2019 #27
He's right though. My deplorable co-worker told me a year ago that he is afraid of a Biden run. n UniteFightBack May 2019 #15
I will not vote out of fear. earthshine May 2019 #16
I will vote for whomever is most likely to defeat Trump, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #26
So, fear is one of your values? earthshine May 2019 #29
Where did I say I was supporting Biden? I'm still undecided, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #30
I pretty much agree with your paragraph. earthshine May 2019 #31
Trump is far right. Right and left have had shifting meanings through American history andym May 2019 #18
Thank You! If this isn't Cha May 2019 #20
Yes. Trump has highlighted the roadmap for a far right fascist to destroy the American Repubic andym May 2019 #22
Agree! Except that from what I've read the increase in Hortensis May 2019 #32
Donald Trump has no ideology. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2019 #23
Basically agree. Any "ideology" would be all about him, Hortensis May 2019 #33
He's a hard-core conservative. TwilightZone May 2019 #28
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