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Demsrule86

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71. I don't feel great with a senate that is probably lost to us for the forseeable future and a blue

Sun Jun 30, 2019, 11:13 PM

Jun 2019

wall that is destroyed giving us no path to win the presidency in 20 and beyond. What reason do we have to feel great ...because our candidates spout liberal talking points that ultimately could cost us the general? I would suggest a bit of realism needs to be injected into this thing. Moderates took the House ...there is no liberal thirst at the moment...could we create this with some hard work...hell yes...but we have to do the work...win over the voters we need to our side and we haven't done that...not yet. And if we don't Trump wins.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The Democratic Party is FINALLY (once again) a LIBERAL political party. [View all] Laelth Jun 2019 OP

K&R. Great observations and pointa on having a liberal party. CentralMass Jun 2019 #1

Thank you. Laelth Jun 2019 #65

Just saw your title and haven't read thoroughly but just resonant strongly. Kind of Blue Jun 2019 #2

Same. Thank you. n/t Laelth Jun 2019 #66

And how did the Democrats do Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #3

But the country is more liberal now. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #5

That must be why Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #6

True, but Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #9

No Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #13

I think Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #17

True Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #19

Common sense is a dog whistle term used in right wing ads here NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #31

Ok than something different Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #42

The Democratic Party of the 80's was pretty much where it was in the 70's rpannier Jun 2019 #26

You're overlooking... brooklynite Jun 2019 #39

The party in the 80s had run out of steam and ideas after 50 years in power. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #40

Are you claiming Mondale and Dukakis weren't liberal? Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #45

No. Where did you get that impression? I'll word it differently if it's unclear. hedda_foil Jun 2019 #56

Using your logic, the democrats should target minorities and out hate the GOP Politicub Jun 2019 #28

Never said that Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #59

Well said. Laelth Jun 2019 #67

The youngest people to vote in the 1980 election would be 56 today. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #7

Then why don't the Democrats Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #8

The same reason Nine Inch Nails isn't in the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame yet. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #11

Then wait for them to occur Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #15

That's not what "gradual" means. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #18

Maybe/Maybe not Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #21

That's essentially my point. Act_of_Reparation Jun 2019 #22

True Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #23

Are you a moderate or centrist? Just curious... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #33

I'm pragmatic Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #44

Ah - so yes, you are a moderate or centrist. thanks for clarifying. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #46

Not what I said Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #47

Sorry - I am utterly fed up with moderates and centrists and pragmatists in times like these. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #48

Well good luck Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #49

Frankly, I've never experienced "my way" - everything has been diluted into incremental, often NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #50

Yeah it is really annoying to have to live with other people Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #52

Have a nice evening. NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #55

You too nt Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #58

We are in the "my way or the highway" mode and have been for years. Gore1FL Jun 2019 #63

What we need to do is defeat Trump...I am fed up by Trump. Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #85

I turned 18 in 78. 80 was my first Presidential election. CentralMass Jul 2019 #77

The point made is that the party was far LESS liberal in 1980. BadgerMom Jun 2019 #36

No it was very liberal in the 80s Trumpocalypse Jun 2019 #43

Exactly right...and I would hate to see that happen again. Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #70

I don't remember the liberal part in the '80s. Go Vols Jul 2019 #78

Yes the DLC was a reaction Trumpocalypse Jul 2019 #81

It WASN'T a truly liberal party in 80, 84, and 88. Laelth Jul 2019 #83

"progressives" have been trying to make this case since... well, forever. wyldwolf Jul 2019 #87

Yes we are. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #4

I'll be convinced by results. Having said that, I do feel that our party is more liberal now today KPN Jun 2019 #10

I don't feel great with a senate that is probably lost to us for the forseeable future and a blue Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #71

We are doing it. KPN Jul 2019 #72

Doing what exactly? Have you looked at the Senate map...we are not a liberal country and if we run Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #73

I wouldn't go quite that far.. mountain grammy Jun 2019 #12

There are some conservative Dems in the House. Turin_C3PO Jun 2019 #14

They gave us our house majority...and without moderates, we will lose it. And the Senate is going Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #74

Some Democrats get more corporate donations than others IronLionZion Jul 2019 #75

Castro even acknowledged the rights of trans persons. rainin Jun 2019 #16

Okay DownriverDem Jun 2019 #20

40 percent of the country is overcome with hate and have been charmed by Trump Politicub Jun 2019 #32

Climate change is driving the shift to more liberal politics. We're in the middle of an jalan48 Jun 2019 #24

A positive upbeat message and impression. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #25

K&R to victory! Politicub Jun 2019 #27

K&R Thanks for cheering me up. lagomorph777 Jun 2019 #29

Included is Reclaiming Religion (or Lack Thereof) as a Democratic Value dlk Jun 2019 #30

Good post. BTW... 63 yrs old here and always proud to be a Democrat and NRaleighLiberal Jun 2019 #34

Thank you. n/t Laelth Jul 2019 #82

I am the older generation Camaromjr Jun 2019 #35

11. No puedo leer de otro bebe muriendo arrancado de los brazos de la madre. lambchopp59 Jun 2019 #37

Donald Trump can win again then. Midwestocrat Jun 2019 #38

Me too... Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #86

I liked ALL the candidates. AllyCat Jun 2019 #41

I have been proud to be a Democrat for over 40 years. redstatebluegirl Jun 2019 #51

"... marijuana, and he is our most conservative candidate" trev Jun 2019 #53

Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #95

Yes, Very proud to be a Democrat. Brngs me back to my youth in the 60's - Far out, Man!! walkingman Jun 2019 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2019 #57

K&R EndGOPPropaganda Jun 2019 #60

Some of the candidates speak to liberal values and policies. ananda Jun 2019 #61

Point taken. Laelth Jul 2019 #94

There is a danger in some candidates going too far left. Honeycombe8 Jun 2019 #62

Nice observations. PatrickforO Jun 2019 #64

Thank you for all of those relevant insights on Hickenlooper. Laelth Jun 2019 #68

Yeah, the country is not liberal...center left at best. I fail to understand how folks missed the Demsrule86 Jun 2019 #69

Just like Republicans watched in horror thinking Trump would fail badly IronLionZion Jul 2019 #76

Not in the red states...we won't win Alabama most likely...the midterms clearly show we need a big Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #80

The ground work to elect Republicans was laid...they had an issue when they lost Virginia...but Demsrule86 Jul 2019 #84

The polling does not support the claim that the party has become more liberal Gothmog Jul 2019 #79

I get your point. Laelth Jul 2019 #88

I am part of the moderate base of the party Gothmog Jul 2019 #89

I thought you were one of the Nazgul. Laelth Jul 2019 #90

Gothmog is also a name of one of Sauron's Balrogs Gothmog Jul 2019 #92

"And we are liberal--finally, and at last." myohmy2 Jul 2019 #91

Our presidential candidates appear to be universally liberal. Laelth Jul 2019 #93