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NurseJackie

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28. No it's not. Nobody is saying that. This isn't about senility.
Sat Mar 16, 2019, 10:25 AM
Mar 2019
This is kneecapping. "Bernie is a senile old coot" is the Big Lie it feeds.
No it's not. Nobody is saying that. This isn't about senility.

Instead, this episode does raise legitimate health-related questions in the minds of many... and the way it was handled only adds to the mystery.

All I'm saying is that as voters, people deserve to know what's going on and to have a forthcoming accounting and assessment of a candidate's health, and to know what his (or her) risk factors are. We deserve to know whether the candidate we vote for has a good chance of actually being able to serve their full term. There's nothing wrong with wanting to know these things. There's nothing wrong with asking questions and talking about these things.

Heart disease and high blood pressure are known as "silent killers" for a reason. That's not a big-lie.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect that the candidates running for national office should not be "silent" about their health, and whatever ongoing issues there may be, or their medications. Voters deserve to know the truth about ALL candidates.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
Easy to do. I've almost fallen in the shower before but luckily a grab bar was there. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #1
Is it easy to hit your head on the door? I can't figure out how that would work. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #4
Fall at an angle? Maybe it broke ... or he hit the handle? Maybe ... n/t RKP5637 Mar 2019 #5
There isn't a single part of the shower that's isn't in... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #14
Except they said he didn't fall. pnwmom Mar 2019 #15
Maybe he was getting really animated while yelling at the shower walls. NT WeekiWater Mar 2019 #16
LOL... comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #34
TeeHee! Stellar Mar 2019 #39
That wasn't one. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #43
Well, I am... Stellar Mar 2019 #47
Then an old joke it was. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #49
We have a glass shower door but it does not have metal trim. I'm guessing the hotel seaglass Mar 2019 #21
You wouldn't even have to slip... TCJ70 Mar 2019 #65
What if he was showering with ducks and it was more of a "trip". WeekiWater Mar 2019 #2
Bernie requires 7 stitches but did not fall ? stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #3
Yeah... my dear mother would often fall but would NEVER admit it. Instead... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #9
Not an expert but if he cut himself above the eye in a fall BeyondGeography Mar 2019 #6
Wow... that looks bad. He should probably get some rest. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #10
He looks pretty rough in that pic. Tipperary Mar 2019 #18
Yes he does. It was shocking actually. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #23
cane enid602 Mar 2019 #59
Wishing a speedy recovery to Sen. Sanders! Devil Child Mar 2019 #7
Same... not to worry though, NOTHING slows Bernie down. He's the "Energizer Bunny" of candidates!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #57
Did this happen at one of his houses in VT or at his condo in DC? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #8
A hotel. NT Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #13
They say it was at a hotel. I've stayed at probably over a thousand hotels over the years... George II Mar 2019 #20
Really? I've stayed in more than one in recent years that had been renovated, and it bullwinkle428 Mar 2019 #35
Bernie should "come clean" over this shower incident...he needs to provide "full transparency" about InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #60
I've stayed in some hotel rooms with glass doors in the shower in recent years - musette_sf Mar 2019 #67
Prepare to have your MIND BLOWN... TCJ70 Mar 2019 #80
Not that it matters anymore, but the only picture that shows a shower on that site is this one.... George II Mar 2019 #85
It is not the only bathroom picture... TCJ70 Mar 2019 #86
The caption for that one is: George II Mar 2019 #88
Is it possible that he walked into the door? DesertRat Mar 2019 #11
There's a reason other than age for such accidents. displacedtexan Mar 2019 #12
His thyroid levels are probably "off" ... or his BP meds, or heart-meds may be off... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #19
I seriously doubt that a head injury requiring seven stitches would be considered a matter of T&R. George II Mar 2019 #22
Another possibility is that it could have been a syncope episode... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #24
Here's more info about CARDIAC SYNCOPE and ARRHYTHMIA NurseJackie Mar 2019 #25
Could have been anything, even fatigue. Again, with a head injury I seriously doubt... George II Mar 2019 #27
That's certainly a mystery. Either the clinic was negligent... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #30
Many Walk-In clinics will not treat a patient that has lost consciousness. 33taw Mar 2019 #53
Many patients know that and will not tell the truth... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #55
Unless unconscious at arrival, the doctors have no way of knowing whether a patient fainted prior... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #82
The name of the clinic has not been released. ehrnst Mar 2019 #70
Yes, the HIPAA rules are very strict. We must rely on transparency from the Sanders campaign... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #84
To be fair, aside from the bandage, he does look refreshed and well rested. lapucelle Mar 2019 #38
You know, Botox is popular among celebs and politicians. But it has negative side effects as well... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #42
He looked worse today, after a day for the swelling to set in. pnwmom Mar 2019 #63
A cut that severe would involve swelling or blackening of the eye. ehrnst Mar 2019 #71
Yes, or maybe Bernie is suffering from gamma aminobutyrate transaminase deficiency InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #81
Appeal to Ridicule: ehrnst Mar 2019 #90
Did you see the HORRIFIC swelling in these photos? I feel so sad for him. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #91
I can't say much since yesterday I somehow managed to yank my car door open, Vinca Mar 2019 #17
Could also be he is staying in a hotel - easier to have a mishap in unfamiliar places MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #41
As I've joined the elderly population, I no longer have the STAMINA that I once had... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #44
Agreed. It's an issue. We need experience AND stamina MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #45
This is kneecapping. "Bernie is a senile old coot" is the Big Lie it feeds. McCamy Taylor Mar 2019 #26
No it's not. Nobody is saying that. This isn't about senility. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #28
It could have been a transient ischemic attack. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #31
To quote my dear departed mom's wonderful and thoughtful physician. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #33
It's incredible that anyone would liken basic questions about an accident to a Big Lie. lapucelle Mar 2019 #36
Strawman.... (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #72
What were you expecting? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #83
.... ehrnst Mar 2019 #89
I hope he's treated as respectfully as Hillary was when she had pneumonia...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #29
... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #32
Touche' still_one Mar 2019 #37
Waiting for someone to make this point MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #40
Exactly lunamagica Mar 2019 #46
Amen! R B Garr Mar 2019 #48
... betsuni Mar 2019 #52
Remember - she fell. The release was VERY clear that Bernie didn't fall. ehrnst Mar 2019 #73
Are you saying... TeeYiYi Mar 2019 #50
He looked fine Ananda62 Mar 2019 #51
You must not have been sitting very close. He had a very large, "flesh" colored bandage pnwmom Mar 2019 #54
I was in the bleachers Ananda62 Mar 2019 #58
Well, faces and eyes are known for being areas that bruise a lot, pnwmom Mar 2019 #61
It IS swollen shut. I *knew* it was *much worse* than we were being told. (Screen cap) NurseJackie Mar 2019 #87
I would expect nothing less from Bernie... to overcome that kind of injury InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #76
Actually, he hasn't "overcome" the injury at all. Have you seen the photos? NurseJackie Mar 2019 #92
Yet Bernie keeps going, and going, and going... sucha serious injury & he hasn't slowed down a bit!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #93
No they're not. Thanks for proving my point. You can't have it both ways. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #94
It is common for people of his advanced age to have falling spells. Maybe it is not doc03 Mar 2019 #56
They were claiming it wasn't a fall, but I don't know how else to explain it. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #62
Hillary fell so she was "frail." What happened with Bernie is very, very, very different. ehrnst Mar 2019 #74
The DNC rigged the shower door! The superdelegates pushed him in to it! comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #64
Bazinga! George II Mar 2019 #66
... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #69
I've done that Bettie Mar 2019 #68
There are just some puzzling aspects to how ehrnst Mar 2019 #75
No, that's fine.. but, the suggestion by some - NOT sayin' you - that Bernie might have been drunk InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #77
I didn't see that in this thread - granted, it's long. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #79
owie owie owie.... samnsara Mar 2019 #78
I know... so much swelling. So painful. I hope he heals quickly. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #95
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