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Hassin Bin Sober

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92. Was he wrong or was he right?

Reply to George II (Reply #82)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 08:14 PM

Dec 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Nader supporter Michael Moore needs to shut up [View all] Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 OP

Fuck you, Michael Moore! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #1

That's a lot of waste. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #6

Sad ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #137

I can think of some others that need your scorn a lot more. But that's pretty scornful. erronis Dec 2019 #8

Don't worry, I'll get to them too. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #12

It is easier to just ignore Moore Gothmog Dec 2019 #29

The talking heads on MSNBC love his sorry ass. comradebillyboy Dec 2019 #101

Espically Chris Hayes Gothmog Dec 2019 #103

+++ still_one Dec 2019 #33

Well said mcar Dec 2019 #130

Is Nadar running in the 2020 Democratic primary? This post seems to imply that. Farmer-Rick Dec 2019 #217

This isn't about Nader... it's about the treacherous Michael Moore who supported Nader... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #234

He's thoughtful, studied, and often right, no reason at all to suggest he 'shut up.' elleng Dec 2019 #2

He's "right" no more often than any other asshole pundit... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #11

Couldn't have said it better myself .... CatMor Dec 2019 #17

+1 ChiTownDenny Dec 2019 #18

Thats not why booley Dec 2019 #63

Thanks elleng Dec 2019 #69

LOL! ChiTownDenny Dec 2019 #73

Yes. Russian lies. Far-left lies. Republican lies. Hortensis Dec 2019 #75

It won't get better... sacto95834 Dec 2019 #189

Trump won because of increased partisanship and identity based on race. betsuni Dec 2019 #196

Agree with reservation... sacto95834 Dec 2019 #228

I thought Hillary, as the candidate, took her share of responsibility... I commend her. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #208

... and people ignore the sage advice of MM at their own risk. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #209

Thanks... sacto95834 Dec 2019 #230

Your welcome... excellent post, as usual. I agree with you on so many levels. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #231

Well he sure was right about his prediction based on what happened or didnt happen in Michigan. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #31

Are you now GLOATING about Hillary Clinton losing to trump in 2016? George II Dec 2019 #34

It looks that way. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #70

I see no gloating. Just a reminder of inconvenient history. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #81

"Well he sure was right about his prediction based on what happened or didnt happen in Michigan." George II Dec 2019 #82

I really don't see that as gloating about Hillary's loss. aikoaiko Dec 2019 #84

PRECISELY the point!! Thanks aikoaiko for NOT misrepresenting WHAT I WAS ACTUALLY SAYING!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #91

Moore predicted the Democrats would lose in every election I can remember... a broken clock is right Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #118

Was he wrong or was he right? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #92

Who, and about what? George II Dec 2019 #97

Thank you!! Intellectual honesty is always appreciated!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #90

Hillary lost to trump RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #141

We were talking about how "brilliant" Michael Moore was. It was gloating. George II Dec 2019 #143

She should have campaigned there RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #144

She did. George II Dec 2019 #146

Thank you. Another myth busted. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #159

She went to Flint, Michigan to do something about the water crisis before other candidates. betsuni Dec 2019 #162

Michael Moore lives in Flint, what did he do? George II Dec 2019 #175

I curious about that. betsuni Dec 2019 #177

Here are ALL of her campaign stops in Michigan: George II Dec 2019 #170

Thanks, I haven't seen that before. betsuni Dec 2019 #174

WITHOUT A DOUBT!! TRAGIC MISTAKE ON HILLARY'S PART... WHICH SHE HAS ADMITTED. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #210

Because of all the Sanders supporters who voted for Trump in those states mcar Dec 2019 #173

If so it's probably not the first time. BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #251

He didn't predict *why.* The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #78

Thank you. Well said. nt SunSeeker Dec 2019 #199

In what ways is he thoughtful and studied? N/T lapucelle Dec 2019 #42

Predictions elleng Dec 2019 #68

That kind of negativity discourages voting. People who believe him will stay home. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #71

No, you are wrong, but for the fact he is not physically attractive. elleng Dec 2019 #79

I'm right. You're wrong. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #80

Good bye elleng Dec 2019 #83

Thank you for the discussion. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #86

Yes, you'd think peeps would take his predictions more into account after his last ones. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #93

REALLY! elleng Dec 2019 #95

Yes, especially since he seems to have his finger on the pulse of the working class. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #109

Quite concerning to me. elleng Dec 2019 #110

So much concern. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #158

With all this concern, at this point I think maybe thoughts and prayers justhanginon Dec 2019 #202

For anyone who might not know MuseRider Dec 2019 #124

He's anti Democrat so fuck him hard nini Dec 2019 #244

Yeah About four years ago. LakeArenal Dec 2019 #3

I stopped paying attention to Moore a long time ago Gothmog Dec 2019 #4

"I stopped paying attention to Moore a long time ago." LenaBaby61 Dec 2019 #26

Big mistake... MM has some excellent insight into the goings on with the working class. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #232

Caught his interview on Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #5

So did I catch it, early morning today, elleng Dec 2019 #9

Thanks for the info. Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #13

Amy Goodman is an excellent journalist.... sacto95834 Dec 2019 #233

Thank you for that... very interesting!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #52

Democracy Now was founded by Amy Goodman. Enough said. George II Dec 2019 #35

It was an interesting interview... people completely dismiss him at their own risk. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #48

Yes, it was VERY insightful. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #211

Trump winning is good for Michael Moore, Inc. BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #7

He made some interesting movies, but that doesn't make him an interesting speaker. TreasonousBastard Dec 2019 #164

I certainly like that locution. NNadir Dec 2019 #168

K&R n/t PhoenixDem Dec 2019 #10

He's definitely a bloviator. But he's probably right. progressoid Dec 2019 #14

Agreed. mahina Dec 2019 #15

That's not new; we've heard that over and over and over treestar Dec 2019 #22

"It does no good to pit one group against another" progressoid Dec 2019 #43

Well they started it treestar Dec 2019 #89

In 2015, nonvoters were more likely to be "younger, less educated, less affluent, and nonwhite." progressoid Dec 2019 #117

I'm tired of the concept that the rest of us have to give treestar Dec 2019 #150

Unlike most Democrats, I too have voted in every election (except one when I was ill.) progressoid Dec 2019 #155

Anyone who won't vote now treestar Dec 2019 #169

HE'S PROBABLY RIGHT?! DAMN STRAIGHT HE'S RIGHT ABOUT THAT!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #57

Total horse shit... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #160

Are people of color part of our base? progressoid Dec 2019 #165

Is that a serious question? George II Dec 2019 #171

via dictionary.com progressoid Dec 2019 #225

And what did voter suppression have to do with these numbers? mcar Dec 2019 #172

POC voter turnout increased in 2018. Voter suppression ended in 2016? progressoid Dec 2019 #181

"A more important explanation for the drop in African American turnout had to do with Obama and betsuni Dec 2019 #176

Putin and Russian efforts to depress African American voters worked Gothmog Dec 2019 #178

Didn't work in the mid-terms though. progressoid Dec 2019 #183

You do know that US Cyber Command blocked the Russians during the midterms? Gothmog Dec 2019 #186

And Democratic voters were extremely fucking motivated to vote. progressoid Dec 2019 #187

Democrats had 9 million more votes in 2018 compared to the GOP in House races Gothmog Dec 2019 #212

Dems should know this too.. and not be Cha Dec 2019 #184

"States with harsh new voting laws, such as Wisconsin, saw turnout dip 1.7 points betsuni Dec 2019 #179

FactChecking Clinton's Voter Suppression Claims progressoid Dec 2019 #185

Nobody is saying voter suppression is the sole reason for turnout decrease. betsuni Dec 2019 #188

GOP voter suppression techniques work Gothmog Dec 2019 #215

Rigged: How Voter Suppression Threw Wisconsin to Trump Gothmog Dec 2019 #214

This treestar Dec 2019 #255

Yes. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #182

I used to think that there were no stupid questions but only stupid answers NYMinute Dec 2019 #206

Ha! betsuni Dec 2019 #207

I'm surprised how many intelligent people can't recognize a rhetorical question. progressoid Dec 2019 #226

We understand it fine. We just categorize it the way it should be categorized. NYMinute Dec 2019 #235

Delaware is the only one with an increase from both treestar Dec 2019 #254

Thank you, Nurse Jackie! True Blue American Dec 2019 #198

See to me there is a difference proud patriot Dec 2019 #16

He voted for Nader Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #19

Sneaky game? ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #21

Yes he is Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #24

I voted for Nader In 92 proud patriot Dec 2019 #23

Thanks for helping Bush! Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #25

whoops I meant 96 .. bush wasn't running dole was proud patriot Dec 2019 #39

Ok Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #49

Nader wasn't running in 2016 mountain grammy Dec 2019 #27

He was in 2000 Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #28

How exactly is Moore sneaky? mountain grammy Dec 2019 #37

Maybe the poster has some insight on sneaky ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #38

I know, right? mountain grammy Dec 2019 #41

me too proud patriot Dec 2019 #44

He is trying to scare Democratic voters Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #47

Scare Democratic? ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #51

Indeed mountain grammy Dec 2019 #54

Democratic voters Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #59

You're not very good at this RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #142

Projection Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #149

Yes... exactly! Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #192

The Shite moore says.. Cha Dec 2019 #191

You got that right MG!! You can disagree with someone and still have respect for them. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #111

Really? ehrnst Dec 2019 #242

Sez you.. moore is a fucking sneaky idiot says me. Cha Dec 2019 #238

He's not helping when his definition of a "centrist" is Hillary Clinton.n/t pnwmom Dec 2019 #40

is that an insult ? proud patriot Dec 2019 #50

From his perspective and that of his fans, it's an insult. pnwmom Dec 2019 #72

I agree w/ u about Hillary proud patriot Dec 2019 #102

Hillary was a liberal since her college days and tried to give us universal healthcare in the 90's. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #113

I agree proud patriot Dec 2019 #163

Moderates never say that treestar Dec 2019 #94

Yes they do proud patriot Dec 2019 #104

Very rare if they do treestar Dec 2019 #151

Exactly! mountain grammy Dec 2019 #216

HRC a centrist? She was pushing for universal healthcare in 1990 and everyone boohooed her. nt yaesu Dec 2019 #20

That was the 90's. progressoid Dec 2019 #45

She said, as president: "I would have gone after the drug companies to bring down prices and fought betsuni Dec 2019 #122

Yes. Why would you think she wasn't? You may want to pull up some of her speeches.... George II Dec 2019 #147

She hardly pushed. mountain grammy Dec 2019 #60

This is not at all true. OldRed2450 Dec 2019 #100

She said it failed to get enough votes because of lack of compromise. betsuni Dec 2019 #108

THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #112

That! George II Dec 2019 #167

That is not true and out of the ashes...they managed to get CHIP which has saved millions of kids. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #119

Nah, sorry. A great president? mountain grammy Dec 2019 #121

Yes a great president...tired of the Clinton bashing...He was a great president and she would have Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #125

Let's be clear. I'm not bashing Clinton mountain grammy Dec 2019 #213

It was a different time. The country had moved right after Reagan...Clinton never had a majority... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #221

Republicans. betsuni Dec 2019 #127

Thanks for that...very interesting and true. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #222

Yes he was and Hillary is responsible for some great accomplishments including CHIP Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #193

Got any sources to back up that attack? ehrnst Dec 2019 #241

It's his nature to sabotage what he claims to support. Hortensis Dec 2019 #30

Michael Moore Rocks And Told Us Trump Was Gonna Win - We Ignored His Warning DanieRains Dec 2019 #32

He also said mccain and r9mney were going to win, and a vote for Gore was a vote for still_one Dec 2019 #36

This squirecam Dec 2019 #56

Yup still_one Dec 2019 #77

No MM does NOT "rock".. in fact just the OPPOSITE Cha Dec 2019 #55

Hillary isn't "Centrist" read the fucking Platform, MM.. and look Cha Dec 2019 #46

Clinton is only a centrist to the purity left. Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #64

Exactly.. they must think if they say Cha Dec 2019 #66

And only then as a clueless insult. To understand the Hortensis Dec 2019 #123

+1000 Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #194

Moore's a Cha Dec 2019 #197

You mean the platform that moved to the left to bring in Sanders' supporters? Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2019 #256

What Moore Really Needs To Do Me. Dec 2019 #53

You were an employee? ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #76

No Me. Dec 2019 #126

"I've come to the conclusion that the old guard of the Democratic Party is a greater roadblock betsuni Dec 2019 #58

Fuck that guy. John Fante Dec 2019 #85

He's worse than Cenk Uygur (except for the bestiality stuff). He truly hates Democrats and... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #87

The thing I don't get is how they tell their audiences that both parties are the same betsuni Dec 2019 #98

And that is exactly why the millenials treestar Dec 2019 #99

Yeah, he's full of shite. just jabbers to be jabbering.. Cha Dec 2019 #134

And still thinks the DNC has superpowers to rig elections. betsuni Dec 2019 #135

He gaslights.. wants people to Cha Dec 2019 #136

K Me. Dec 2019 #161

Moore was right about Trump winning booley Dec 2019 #61

Was he right about McCain and Romney winning? Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #62

But the broken clock doesn't CROW and BOAST and BELLOW about being right two times... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #96

I've liked Michael since Roger and Me 90-percent Dec 2019 #65

Haaaaaa! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #74

Bill Maher & Moore literally got on their knees on TV and begged Nader not to run. progressoid Dec 2019 #153

Funny gag. Cute stunt. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #157

Yup, Roger and Me was an awesome movie... it really awakened a lot of people at the time. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #114

He's allowed to have his opinions JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #67

When he comes on any media ...radio, TV...whatever, I immediately turn it off...I never want to hear Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #116

I just saw a clip on MSNBC JustAnotherGen Dec 2019 #139

We have only to look at midterms...did the AOC wing win the house for us? Nope...it was Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #224

Yup! His spot really haven't changed Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #195

He is a POS and in reality he supports his own sorry ass...of course he helped Trump win with his Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #223

Has Michael Moore ever predicted a Democratic victory...EVER?? Lexblues Dec 2019 #88

I disagree. He is free to offer his opinion just like anyone else is. totodeinhere Dec 2019 #105

He also predicted McCain and Romney would win Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #107

if Trump has a chance of winning the 2020 election then we should be scared. n/t totodeinhere Dec 2019 #128

Yes, he has quite a few points. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #115

Which points would those be? nt sheshe2 Dec 2019 #243

The ones where he praises Bernie unconditionally BannonsLiver Dec 2019 #252

Thanks for clearing that up, Bannon. sheshe2 Dec 2019 #253

I am sure that he will not shut up. roody Dec 2019 #106

I for one hope he never does. mountain grammy Dec 2019 #120

Hard truths are hard to swallow Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #132

Simple disagreements are hard to swallow mountain grammy Dec 2019 #218

Wait! Are we agreeing or disagreeing? Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #220

We're definitely agreeing mountain grammy Dec 2019 #245

his relevance ended for me MFM008 Dec 2019 #129

So let me get this straight... choie Dec 2019 #131

Never said that Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #138

Yep. That's about the size of it. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #156

A filmmaker is treated as a soothsayer, while Hillary Clinton is told to shut up. StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #133

A "filmmaker" who Cha Dec 2019 #190

No he should not "shut up" RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #140

He also said McCain and Romney would beat Obama Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #148

What happened to the "Big Tent" Democratic Party?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #180

They only like the right side big enough to enter RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #204

Yes & its beginnin to look more like a "pup tent," certainly not big enough for the progressive left InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #205

Oh he can talk ismnotwasm Dec 2019 #145

Even if he's right once, that does not mean he is always right from now on treestar Dec 2019 #152

He was trying to find common ground with people who strongly oppose us JonLP24 Dec 2019 #201

He just refuses to acknowledge all the elements that went into Kahuna7 Dec 2019 #154

It's a view lees1975 Dec 2019 #166

If you bring up Nader supporter JonLP24 Dec 2019 #200

She was an unknown...and had little impact but Moore had huge rallies that changed folks mind... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #239

I think it was Nader himself campaigning in swing states right before the election JonLP24 Dec 2019 #240

I do...such people influence other voters. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #246

The other day there was a post here, basically accusing those not dewsgirl Dec 2019 #203

+1 Dem4Life1102 Dec 2019 #219

His physical appearance is not what makes him unattractive...it is the naked opportunism and the Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #227

I'm sorry, what did he do in 2000? I tried to Google didn't dewsgirl Dec 2019 #229

He supported and voted for Nader... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #236

I remember the 2016 stuff, I was 22 in 2000 and not paying dewsgirl Dec 2019 #237

I wasn't paying attention much either...only after the fact when we elected one of the worst Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #247

Me too, until the Access Hollywood tapes, I was to busy. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #248

I am all in this time... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #249

Me too, 100 percent. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #250

KICK! Cha Dec 2019 #257