Democratic Primaries

melman

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20. He can

Reply to NurseJackie (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 30, 2019, 08:50 AM

Dec 2019

and you know it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Here's why Hillary won the primaries on her second try, but Bernie probably won't. [View all] pnwmom Dec 2019 OP

He has to earn those votes. Feet must be held to the fire. betsuni Dec 2019 #1

re: "Give details and name names" - you think THAT would be better? That would be more divisive! thesquanderer Dec 2019 #12

Great post TheFarseer Dec 2019 #129

I was very happy that Obama won the primaries janterry Dec 2019 #2

How will Bernie rise to the top when he's alienated so many Hillary voters, and they pnwmom Dec 2019 #4

I've written before janterry Dec 2019 #40

Similar experience, but never BS. Amimnoch Dec 2019 #49

It's true janterry Dec 2019 #54

I'm in that crowd Fresh_Start Dec 2019 #78

+1! Cha Dec 2019 #119

Too bad for them...future Republicans or non-voters are what they are... get their way or Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #81

Most of the young folks I know are either for Elizabeth or Bernie. Scotch-Irish Dec 2019 #106

Just goes to show... radical noodle Dec 2019 #108

I know a ton of never sanders types Gothmog Dec 2019 #115

The same could be said for BS and black voters, especially black women voters who are the... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2019 #135

This is something I've never understood... Mike Nelson Dec 2019 #3

Not only that DownriverDem Dec 2019 #33

"Professional grown-ups" brutus smith Dec 2019 #39

That's not what happened in 2008. lapucelle Dec 2019 #59

My post said... Mike Nelson Dec 2019 #61

Sanders cannot beat Trump - I believe that also about Warren and a few others Pachamama Dec 2019 #5

well they didnt last time so why should they this time.. samnsara Dec 2019 #31

Sadly... Pachamama Dec 2019 #69

Bernie CAN win! James48 Dec 2019 #6

No he can't. He clearly hates the Democratic party... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #10

He can melman Dec 2019 #20

Haaaaaa! NurseJackie Dec 2019 #27

No we do NOT know that sanders can win Gothmog Dec 2019 #53

No we don't know it because it isn't true...and I think he knows he won't win...hence the attacks Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #83

Nope. Not really. ehrnst Dec 2019 #122

So he votes with democratic senators 99% because he hates them... Joe941 Dec 2019 #113

That's a myth. He does NOT vote with the Democrats 99% of the time. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #114

Where do you get that statistic? I hear it a lot, but never hear the source. ehrnst Dec 2019 #120

How will he appeal to people who preferred Hillary to him in 2016? What has he done pnwmom Dec 2019 #11

So you're saying people like you won't vote for Bernie if he wins the nomination? brutus smith Dec 2019 #42

No. What pnwmom is saying is that he WILL NOT win the nomination without... NurseJackie Dec 2019 #52

Attempted pivot to a strawman... ehrnst Dec 2019 #123

No, it's how can Bernie win the nomination without winning over treestar Dec 2019 #125

+1000. ehrnst Dec 2019 #139

No justie18 Dec 2019 #13

This scenario seems all too likely. Bernie doesn't seem to be making any effort at all pnwmom Dec 2019 #24

Hillary didn't concede to Obama right away. brutus smith Dec 2019 #43

But justie18 Dec 2019 #58

Hillary supporters wanted a roll call at the convention in 2008. brutus smith Dec 2019 #65

That's not what happened at the 2008 convention. lapucelle Dec 2019 #66

As I correctly said she finally gave the acclamation speech. brutus smith Dec 2019 #70

Well justie18 Dec 2019 #73

Actually, HRC put out word within 24 hours that she would be suspending her campaign. StevieM Dec 2019 #74

It's incorrect to say that HRC "finally" gave the acclamation speech. lapucelle Dec 2019 #75

By historical standards any race that close would have been expected to go to the convention. StevieM Dec 2019 #85

Clinton Ends Campaign With Clear Call to Elect Obama lapucelle Dec 2019 #89

The degree of rank misinformation that's floating around on this thread is troubling. N/T lapucelle Dec 2019 #90

And no matter how many times it's debunked it goes right back to being bunked. betsuni Dec 2019 #127

No. Obama clinched the nomination on June 3, Hillary decided to concede the next day and met betsuni Dec 2019 #126

I remember 2008 quite well. lapucelle Dec 2019 #62

Exactly! justie18 Dec 2019 #76

NO HILLARY DID NOT & I'LL NEVER FORGET THE REASONING SHE GAVE FOR NOT CONCEDING EARLIER!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #105

She decided to concede the day after Obama got the nomination, met with him the day after that, betsuni Dec 2019 #128

So? Red herring... ehrnst Dec 2019 #124

but what has he done? and what makes him more real? samnsara Dec 2019 #32

Do you know his background? DownriverDem Dec 2019 #34

I believe this, too janterry Dec 2019 #44

nobody wins when the party is divided. bernie is a great divider. and talk about baggage. mopinko Dec 2019 #50

He's got a fraction of the support he had four years ago, and as he liked to say.... George II Dec 2019 #63

DAMN RIGHT BERNIE CAN WIN!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #98

It's you that needs to "wake up." ehrnst Dec 2019 #121

Interestingly, the naderites, the PUMAs rioting for HRC, and Hortensis Dec 2019 #7

I doubt sanderistas are the same people as PUMAs JonLP24 Dec 2019 #101

So did I, and Hillary as well. These people think differently Hortensis Dec 2019 #111

I am a proud member of the Democratic Party Gothmog Dec 2019 #8

Yep DownriverDem Dec 2019 #35

So you're another one who won't vote for Bernie if he's the nominee? brutus smith Dec 2019 #45

No one said that...they ...we because I include myself will not vote for Sanders in the Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #84

Excellent analysis! Thank you. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #9

Hillary lost to trump RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #14

Please explain what Bernie has done since then to reach out to people who preferred Hillary, pnwmom Dec 2019 #15

You can throw out your numbers all you want RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #19

If Bernie can't get several million Hillary voters to pick him instead of Warren, Biden, pnwmom Dec 2019 #21

So what? RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #23

+1000 Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #87

You can't win if you can't get people to fill in the top of the ballot. floppyboo Dec 2019 #100

Since seniors dying is your stated reason for fewer R B Garr Dec 2019 #109

I think of his stent proceedure as a restorative thing - he's back better than before floppyboo Dec 2019 #130

Since you are so morbid about Clinton voters, R B Garr Dec 2019 #133

She kicked Trump's ass. She lost to Comey. StevieM Dec 2019 #77

THE POINT IS HILLARY LOST TWICE... IT'S TIME TO MOVE ON!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #94

If people feel the need to keep pointing out that she lost then they are not really moving on. StevieM Dec 2019 #99

Thanks 4 your thoughtful response Stevie. I hear what youre sayin, tho I disagree w/u on some points InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #102

I will never get over the 16 general election loss...and I won't support Sanders in a primary...only Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #86

YESSSSSSSS!!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #93

He doesn't have the support DownriverDem Dec 2019 #37

Get over it RandiFan1290 Dec 2019 #47

SERIOUSLY!!!! BUT IM VOTING FOR BERNIE, ALONG WITH MOST OF MY FRIENDS AND FAMILY... CANT WAIT!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #96

Nobody is doing that. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #41

Will you support Bernie if he's the nominee? brutus smith Dec 2019 #46

Ask me again if he becomes our party's nominee. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #51

That's the difference between you and me. brutus smith Dec 2019 #71

I WILL!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #97

They are all fine with me. safeinOhio Dec 2019 #16

Suburban women aren't a big group for Bernie, but they were for Hillary. nt pnwmom Dec 2019 #17

Dems that voted but not for President safeinOhio Dec 2019 #18

Jill Stein voters swung the election. Comey swung the election. pnwmom Dec 2019 #22

They played the EC like a fiddle Freddie Dec 2019 #26

Bernie or Bust folks who ARE too stupid to see this possibility dansolo Dec 2019 #36

That ought to bring them into the fold. safeinOhio Dec 2019 #60

Are you so pissed that you'd safeinOhio Dec 2019 #134

No, I'll vote blue no matter who Freddie Dec 2019 #136

That is the most important thing. safeinOhio Dec 2019 #137

I don't hate Bernie Freddie Dec 2019 #138

indeed. And where are Podesta and Mook now? nt floppyboo Dec 2019 #131

There are more suburban women who support Bernie than you think... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #104

I bet a good number of people are ABB Renew Deal Dec 2019 #25

Are you saying that if Sanders is the nominee Maggiemayhem Dec 2019 #67

I'm talking about the primary Renew Deal Dec 2019 #79

im still waiting for someone to tell me any of his accomplishments.. samnsara Dec 2019 #28

Google is your friend brutus smith Dec 2019 #48

We have looked and cannot find such accomplishments Gothmog Dec 2019 #55

That's what happens with a "no compromise" and all-or-nothing attitude. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #57

i dont know any HRC voters who will support BS this time around... samnsara Dec 2019 #29

Including me. NurseJackie Dec 2019 #56

Includes me too...only a general... Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #88

I DO!!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #95

Same here Gothmog Dec 2019 #116

There's only 1 way I would vote for Sanders in the primary MarianJack Dec 2019 #30

Warren will win Clinton voters; a Warren/Harris ticket will energize the democratic base; a woman RestoreAmerica2020 Dec 2019 #38

Warren's missteps with her MFA plan has hurt her Gothmog Dec 2019 #117

You can't compare Hillary to Obama, who was one of the greatest Presidents of all time!! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #64

Wait...what? "You can't compare HRC to President Obama or BS"? Why not? N/T lapucelle Dec 2019 #68

Some just cannot refrain from making needless attacks against Hillary Hav Dec 2019 #110

The people who say Bernie can't win the nomination ritapria Dec 2019 #72

Yeah, they're not worried at all. Hassin Bin Sober Dec 2019 #82

It is laughable... InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #92

Of course they're worried, why else would they spend SO much time & effort attackin Bernie?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2019 #91

I am still hoping that sanders fails to get the 300 delegates needed to put his name into play Gothmog Dec 2019 #118

Pretty much right on target! K&R MineralMan Dec 2019 #80

Bernie won't win the nomination because he's got support from only 6% of black voters... SidDithers Dec 2019 #103

Polling Comparison: brooklynite Dec 2019 #107

Wow, that's quite a nosedive for Bernie. R B Garr Dec 2019 #112

This makes me smile Gothmog Dec 2019 #132