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CalFione

(571 posts)
Thu Feb 20, 2020, 01:17 PM Feb 2020

If Warren really wants to get this nomination, she has to stop being every Berner's second choice [View all]


Taking down Bloomberg is great. It also shows how she would go after Trump too. Awesome.


But the bottom line is winning the nomination. And right now, she has no real path to come in first - instead of being the second-place fall back choice for every Bernie supporter.


She needs to take some whacks at the leader now. Show us why she's the better option for the progressive wing of the party than a cranky, 78-year-old, socialist with heart disease.


I really believe that Liz Warren can be the "bridge" between the progressive and center-left wings of the party. A true unity candidate.


But she can't get there if she remains only willing to punch the center-left wing and leave Bernie untouched.


Continually being the "1b" candidate to progressives won't cut it. If you want that "1a" pole position, you have to hammer at Bernie's weaknesses now, Liz. Here's some attack lanes against Bernie that don't attack his policy positions:

1. Health. A 78-year-old heart attack victim is a risky bet.

2. Anger. Liz can be the happy warrior. Bernie is the crank.

3. DC. Bernie has spent nearly 4 decades in DC getting almost nothing accomplished. Liz has been there less than a decade, and actually accomplished things when she went after Wall Street as a member of the Obama administration.

4. Women. Liz can attract a much larger enthusiastic base of female voters than Bernie can.


Stop running to be Bernie's VP, Liz. Run to be the top name on the ticket. Bernie won't sell to the larger electorate. You just might.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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The last time she attacked Bernie she tanked in the polls. HerbChestnut Feb 2020 #1
Then she's destined to at-best come in second to Bernie CalFione Feb 2020 #4
Right squirecam Feb 2020 #20
This. Don't attack Bernie. No need. Red Oak Feb 2020 #16
She was attacked mercilessly by Bros. Snake and all. They went after Warren again last night krissey Feb 2020 #25
It's so frustrating. LisaM Feb 2020 #57
We saw lots of signs of misogyny, attacks against women almost exclusively. We often hear men say krissey Feb 2020 #60
Still am excited for Amy! northoftheborder Feb 2020 #2
She's got time. I trust her judgment. We needn't have it all right now. ancianita Feb 2020 #3
Not as much time as you think. 12 days. CalFione Feb 2020 #5
You're right. I stand corrected. She does need to win a few states soon. ancianita Feb 2020 #7
Right squirecam Feb 2020 #24
If she doesn't, what do you think that means? ancianita Feb 2020 #32
That she doesn't want squirecam Feb 2020 #44
It could mean other things. That she, Sanders and Biden have made an agreement. ancianita Feb 2020 #49
She sanders and Biden agree on what? squirecam Feb 2020 #50
That she'll be the VP for one of them,they'll serve one term;she'll succeed one as incumbent in 2024 ancianita Feb 2020 #52
Disagree. Liz is my girl, but I didn't like her attack on Bernie eissa Feb 2020 #6
When did she attack Bernie? I never saw it even once. ancianita Feb 2020 #9
The accusation that he didn't think a woman could be POTUS eissa Feb 2020 #17
I think it was totally believable that Sanders said he didn't think a woman could win seeing krissey Feb 2020 #31
She won't be the nominee then. squirecam Feb 2020 #45
Warren needs to hit hard the differences and her solid position within the party. krissey Feb 2020 #56
It's a fact. He did say it. That doesn't make it an attack. Not shaking hands isn't an attack, eithe ancianita Feb 2020 #35
Bernie isn't Mike eissa Feb 2020 #43
After Super tuesday squirecam Feb 2020 #46
She didn't "attack." Period. Her confronting was different and appropriate. Bernie needs to own up ancianita Feb 2020 #48
If Bernie isn't taken down a peg, she has no path to winning CalFione Feb 2020 #10
Elizabeth Warren has a very good chance at the nomination. 33taw Feb 2020 #8
In a brokered convention, I agree with you. CalFione Feb 2020 #12
Given that Bernie tops out at about 28% in the caucuses/primaries I think a brokered convention 33taw Feb 2020 #15
Did you see how they treated her when she said that Sanders told her a woman can't win? W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #22
She can't be a unity candidate at convention unless she has a sizeable chunk of delegates herself CalFione Feb 2020 #26
True. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #30
53% would vote dem, that leaves a whopping 47% that won't if we do not elect Sanders. Doesn't matte krissey Feb 2020 #34
When it comes to Warren, we have to remember all the tactics and mindsets used against Hillary. ancianita Feb 2020 #36
The tactics used against Hillary was basically to make shit up. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #39
Yep. True that. ancianita Feb 2020 #42
We don't have winner take all MoonlitKnight Feb 2020 #59
She needs to differentiate herself from Bernie but not attacj aikoaiko Feb 2020 #11
Maybe "attack" is too strong... but she needs to flip from being "1b" for progressives to "1a" CalFione Feb 2020 #13
If Sanders were not running, she would get my vote. W_HAMILTON Feb 2020 #14
Warren could get the delegates of the moderate candidates if she goes into Milwaukee strong CalFione Feb 2020 #18
More than half of Warren supporters are not of the Sander block. Warren has a lot of solid krissey Feb 2020 #38
Correct. Warren is acceptable to DNC insiders, regular Democrats, *AND* to most Bernie supporters CalFione Feb 2020 #41
Yes. I agree krissey Feb 2020 #54
Lol. MrsCoffee Feb 2020 #19
Warren makes a big deal of being a capitalist, Bernie out of being a Democratic socialist andym Feb 2020 #21
I agree CalFione Feb 2020 #27
I agree. She needs to make more clear the difference. And maybe how she works within the party krissey Feb 2020 #40
i think... counting Feb 2020 #23
That get her a loss squirecam Feb 2020 #28
that will be counting Feb 2020 #37
She won't be VP anyway squirecam Feb 2020 #47
She can do both. CalFione Feb 2020 #29
she can do both by counting Feb 2020 #33
How do you suggest she get rid of those nasty Berner's that will support her if she is the nominee? Autumn Feb 2020 #51
Amen... LaurenOlimina Feb 2020 #53
Your perception is failing you here. She's never acted like she's running for VP. blm Feb 2020 #55
oh, I know she doesn't want VP CalFione Feb 2020 #58
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