Democratic Primaries

bluedye33139

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3. This is a no-win situation

Thu Feb 27, 2020, 04:20 PM

Feb 2020

If Sanders does not have a majority and is not chosen at the convention, a large section of his followers will absolutely become angry. His supporters who are not Democrats and who hate the Democratic party will experience a confirmation of their bias. some of his followers who are Democrats will likely leave the party, too.

If he is handed the denomination even though a majority of Democrats have voted for other candidates, this will also leave a sour and bitter taste. Mainstream Democrats and people who were hoping for something else will be alienated. Will they leave the party? Possibly some of them will.

We are looking at a no-win situation here. Both outcomes have downsides. Neither outcome is obviously superior.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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New York Times: Superdelegates open to brokered convention to block Sanders from nomination [View all] OliverQ Feb 2020 OP

I am pretty open about the fact that I don't like BS. I am asked in these Squinch Feb 2020 #1

Maybe it would be better to say... Mike Nelson Feb 2020 #2

and this just gives more fire to bernie saying the establishment is against him n/t BlueTillIDie Feb 2020 #8

Much as "This message was self-deleted by its author" offers plausible deniability LanternWaste Feb 2020 #10

+1000. ehrnst Feb 2020 #21

This is a no-win situation bluedye33139 Feb 2020 #3

Well, one way is how it's supposed to operate and one isn't. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #6

If the delegates choose Sanders, that is supposed to happen also. I don't agree bluedye33139 Feb 2020 #7

it depends what his % is of the delegates and how high the next person is Celerity Feb 2020 #9

They booed a candidate at the convention who sewed up the required delegates weeks Squinch Feb 2020 #19

well, technically, Clinton, whilst very close, did not have enough pledged delegates to win Celerity Feb 2020 #20

But what shouldn't be forgotten, it was the mere existence and the number of the super delegates Hav Feb 2020 #25

re:"it was the mere existence and number SDs that prevented Clinton from winning without them" thesquanderer Feb 2020 #27

under the new rules there would have been a 2nd ballot, as the super delegates cannot vote on the Celerity Feb 2020 #34

"His supporters who are not Democrats and who hate the Democratic party"? Kaleva Feb 2020 #41

It would have been better to post the actual NY Times article instead of a critique of the article. George II Feb 2020 #4

OP's prerogative. JudyM Feb 2020 #12

Oh wow.. thanks for that. Cha Feb 2020 #14

But that wouldn't have triggered the reactions that the OP author hoped for, ehrnst Feb 2020 #18

Yeah, the headline is just false. But posting the CNN version at least had the virtue that... thesquanderer Feb 2020 #28

Threats aren't generally a good way to convince people of much of anything. TwilightZone Feb 2020 #5

Had Bloomberg not entered, there would be one clear Progressive and one clear moderate, with the Skya Rhen Feb 2020 #11

What states has Bloomberg ran in so far? Kaleva Feb 2020 #43

Oliver, you haven't answered my question. See the first post. I have never hesitated Squinch Feb 2020 #13

Good luck with that... ehrnst Feb 2020 #15

Right? Squinch Feb 2020 #16

According to polling, it depends on who OliverQ Feb 2020 #22

So, though we would all vote for BS, BS supporters would not vote for anyone but their preferred Squinch Feb 2020 #23

I agree, but that's the way some people are. OliverQ Feb 2020 #24

Well it sounds like you're warning people to get out of the party while the getting's good. ehrnst Feb 2020 #17

Bad headline. It will happen, or not, regardless of whether the SDs are "open" to it or not. thesquanderer Feb 2020 #26

all talk from a dying monarchy. it ain't happening Kurt V. Feb 2020 #29

Per Warren, Bernie helped write the current rules. mzmolly Feb 2020 #30

If Bernie Supporters had their way... mtron32 Feb 2020 #32

Warren also pointed out that Bernie had a different position in mzmolly Feb 2020 #33

Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2020 #49

None of those n/t Just_Vote_Dem Feb 2020 #31

If malcontents stay their asses home, Democrats will win anyway. oasis Feb 2020 #35

Wouldn't count on that. OliverQ Feb 2020 #38

I'm also no counting on malcontents staying home. They'll get Z-E-R-O oasis Feb 2020 #40

That's some optimism there, but Americans are fickle and OliverQ Feb 2020 #42

I'll vote for Bernie if he's the nominee. If asked, I'll admit it. oasis Feb 2020 #45

And I plan on voting for Biden if he's the nominee OliverQ Feb 2020 #47

Good. I believe Joe will live up to the expectations of the majority oasis Feb 2020 #48

Wow. Same thing every single day. Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #36

Yup, every day people are constantly bashing Bernie. OliverQ Feb 2020 #37

Yeah and others bash Democrats and proclaim Trump the winner. Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #39

It's "blue no matter who" and superdelegates are in the rules Sanders accepted. gulliver Feb 2020 #44

Bloomberg is not center-left. OliverQ Feb 2020 #46