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thesquanderer

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25. I think you're mis-reading the info at those links.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 06:31 PM
Mar 2020

The only valid comparisons are SAME POLL. For example, May 30 Quinnipiac Trump/Sanders to May 30 Quinnipiac Trump/Clinton. That way you're polling the same people, with the same methodology, at the same point in time. You cannot meaningfully compare a Trump/Clinton Autumn poll with a Trump/Sanders Spring poll.

With that in mind, look at the complete list of Sanders vs. Trump results from Jan 1 2016 to June 5 2016. Look at all the exact same polls on the Clinton vs. Trump page. Except for one of the 28, Sanders beats Trump by more than Clinton does... and not just by a little bit, but almost always by 5 or more points (and even as high as 12).

Yes, in almost all the polls, Clinton and Sanders both beat Trump... the point is that Sanders beats him by more--usually many more--points.

And if you look at, for example, how they compared to each other in Jan/Feb/Mar of 2016, that is comparable to looking at how Sanders and Biden have been polling against Trump in Jan/Feb/Mar of 2020, in terms of how far out from the election these numbers reflect.

p.s. -- they stop at June 5 because, once Sanders conceded, they no longer polled for how he would do against Trump.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
What did he do last time? Squinch Mar 2020 #1
At least one big difference this time... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #14
Sure they did. Squinch Mar 2020 #15
Seriously? thesquanderer Mar 2020 #16
Yes, seriously. In your source, there are just as many polls taken in the Spring in which Squinch Mar 2020 #24
I think you're mis-reading the info at those links. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #25
re: "You know he would have faced those same forces, right?" thesquanderer Mar 2020 #28
March 17 is AZ, OH, IL, and FL primaries. I think he wants to do the debate, but if hlthe2b Mar 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #3
Interestingly, they seem to have rejected HIM rather than his "socialist agenda" thesquanderer Mar 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author democratisphere Mar 2020 #5
I hope he withdraws el_bryanto Mar 2020 #8
Good point. Sanders' policy prescriptions are broadly popular, but many voters don't believe he's sop Mar 2020 #12
I have not rejected his democratic socialist agenda. MoonchildCA Mar 2020 #11
It's not a 'socialist agenda'. It's a 'European agenda'. pampango Mar 2020 #29
this is a given, sanders will not drop out period,as long as he has people beachbumbob Mar 2020 #6
The vast majority of "sanders followers" voted for Hillary in November. thesquanderer Mar 2020 #9
Would love to see Sen. Sanders see this through to the convention Devil Child Mar 2020 #7
There is an argument to be made for giving people every chance to make their voices heard, but... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #10
What a surprise. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #17
You seem easily surprised! Devil Child Mar 2020 #18
Not really. HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #19
Shame on you child. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2020 #27
Can you add "Dragged from the convention kicking and screaming"? n/t zackymilly Mar 2020 #13
Continue to raise tens of millions so he will have a war chest to fund primary grantcart Mar 2020 #20
I"m not sure that suspending his campaign would have any impact... thesquanderer Mar 2020 #21
Supporters would be more willing to give money if he props up the illusion grantcart Mar 2020 #23
I selected "did not wish to select any of the options provided." W_HAMILTON Mar 2020 #22
Agreed. The "scorched earth" philosophy among his top campaign staff members didn't "just happen"... NurseJackie Mar 2020 #31
This didn't age well. Squinch Mar 2020 #26
Same as last time. I have no reason to believe otherwise. NurseJackie Mar 2020 #30
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