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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:09 PM Original message |
CREW Blasts Pelosi Endorsement of Unethical Murtha for Majority Leader |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
1. If this is true, Murtha is the wong person to be Majority Leader. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
51. I just said that |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:18 AM Response to Reply #51 |
59. the problem some of have with this 'list' from CREW is |
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calimary (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Hey, maybe since the heat's on, he'll let up on this crap a little. |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:56 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. that would not be a bad thing at all |
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fjc (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
64. Nice balanced post. Thanks |
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zreosumgame (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:55 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. all I know about his ABSCAM part is on this video |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
92. He turned down the bribe, but failed to report it |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. well, that's just wonderful... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It is true. But the big hole here is |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. So much for us being the clean team. |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Not trying to be a smartass, but who says these are the |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. From what I understand |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Postpone the vote. She could then recruit a good ethical leader. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
67. Murtha was one of the two NOT charged, much less convicted, |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 06:06 PM Response to Reply #67 |
79. Who said convict? Please check out the tape. I quoted him below. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:43 PM Response to Reply #79 |
98. He could have been planning to report them. How do we know? |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. That sounds like repugs when they were defending Delay. n/t |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
20. Why are they the only two choices? |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
40. Don't 2nd guess Nancy |
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fjc (700 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
66. Uh oh, now you've done it. A reasonable question. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
52. Really |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. I tend to respect CREW's work a great deal |
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Dangerously Amused (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
5. If it's true, he should be held accountable |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
22. Agreed!! We would want to see such actions by the Republicans |
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colonel odis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
7. if murtha's corrupt, they need to nail him. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:04 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Agreed!! Well said. |
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lakercub (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 02:34 AM Response to Reply #23 |
54. Duke Cunningham was a war hero |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
8. This article doesn't spell out one charge leveled against Murtha |
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jrandom421 (367 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 07:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. This sounds like what the Republicans were doing, |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. So Murtha is tainted by accusations? |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. If CREW is just smearing the guy then CREW should lose credibility. |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. You don't trust Nancy |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:18 PM Response to Reply #9 |
28. If I recall from that time... |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:50 PM Response to Reply #28 |
99. That is false. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. That's what I was thinking, too |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Please read Josh Marshall's article |
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BrotherBuzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Thanks, a good read that raises questions... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
65. "one of Capitol Hill's most accomplished masters at the art of pork" - |
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Dangerously Amused (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
31. I thought that too at first |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
68. That's because he was NOT charged, much less convicted, |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
11. when it comes to ethics -- the dem party MUST let chips fall where they may. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. I think this is about earmarks. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The only earmark reform she is talking about so far |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
96. Then why is she endorsing someone |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. That's not enough. If he violated the rules he should be held |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #24 |
43. You don't trust Nancy? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. We're not supposed to trust Nancy. We're supposed to |
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upi402 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:35 AM Response to Reply #45 |
106. Right on! |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:37 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Based on what I am reading here, I'm inclined not to trust in her. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
60. I haven't seen where he violated rules. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
69. Who says he violated any rules on earmarks? |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. Now I know why all the Repundits... |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
25. Hoyer is just as bad and it is all about Iraq and really making a difference. |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. In comparison Hoyer is worse. Corporate America really wants Hoyer. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
117. And the defense contractors |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
27. Doesn't it seem likely that if they had anything to throw at him, they would have already |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Sounds like drivel to me. |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:08 AM Response to Reply #27 |
56. If I've read the NYT's accusations correctly, |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
83. Yes! Thanks for the reminder. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. Looks like the Swiftboat has a new CREW... |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
53. So the organization |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #32 |
90. BINGO. |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
33. Crew are the group that turned over the Foley emails to the FBI in July. |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
34. More info re: Abscam: |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
71. Also, one of the ways to gain residency in this country other |
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seafan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. It seems that way to me as well, from what I've read about this. |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
35. Well, then we can expect the same corruption from the Democrats. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
70. Murtha was involved in a sting of a number of House members. |
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bleedingheart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. Murtha is a big time Pork King...but aside from that... |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-13-06 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
37. Murtha: Full CREW Report and Proof of his Scams... |
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tex-wyo-dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I'll have to read this later, but what puzzles me... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. That sounds like a smear to me. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:23 AM Response to Reply #42 |
128. At best, he's done a poor job of avoiding the appearance of inpropriety |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. So you think Pelosi is unperceptive and not a good judge of men? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:28 AM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Straw Man |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:33 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. She picked him, and she went to bat for him big time. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. More Straw Men!!! |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:25 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. I'll trust Nancy, thanks |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Nice try.... |
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Trajan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
58. I aint buying this .... |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:45 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Sorry. NOT. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:26 PM Response to Reply #58 |
80. Deleted sub-thread |
shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:46 AM Response to Reply #37 |
47. ok |
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Erika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
39. I'll go with Murtha any day of the week |
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whirlygigspin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. this whole thing smells of triangulation |
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Polesitter (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
81. Is that anywhere near Walter Reed? n/t |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:04 AM Response to Reply #39 |
110. KR |
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jamesinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
49. If true, let him face the ethics committee |
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jamesinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. If true, let him face the ethics committee |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 12:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. See my post #71. He should face the ethics committee and |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
57. You can watch the video of the sting here |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
63. Fox news has really played this up. |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. If this were a Republican, I would be happy to see this played up. |
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corporatemedia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 02:43 PM Response to Original message |
77. Murtha is a BAD MOVE. Contact Pelosi and your local dem representative. n/t |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
78. Why would anyone have a problem with this if they are ok with |
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Polesitter (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 07:31 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. And Pelosi voted for his impeachment. n/t |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. "impeached and convicted" |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
85. This is total crap. |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:25 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Exposed: CREW = Big Bad Karl Rove Front Group! |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Funny how Murtha is the one they're swiftboating. |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:35 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Murtha is the... |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:40 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Yes, I'm sure this "conservative coalition" is watching out for Dems. |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 08:53 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Ya know, I let that cheap trick of... |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Have you listened to the tape? I quoted the troubling part at |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 09:25 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. The FBI tries to set up Dem politicians |
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Krakowiak (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 03:08 AM Response to Reply #94 |
109. Your blind faith in the dems is startling... |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
95. Oh GREAT! Where the HELL was this CREW group the last 6 YEARS!?!?!? |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yeah, notice the complete lack of interest in Republicans the last 6 years, |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 10:58 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. They were behind the Foley email release... |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:16 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. No they were NOT! ABC broke the Foley E-Mail scandal! CREW did the least... |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 01:56 AM Response to Reply #105 |
125. If Melanie Sloan is a RW shill, I'm Marie of Romania |
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conservdem (880 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-14-06 11:23 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. Listen to the tape. Don't just attack the messenger. |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #95 |
103. Wrong. You might re-read that. They view themselves as progressives. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 01:51 AM Response to Reply #103 |
107. Ever heard of "Actions speak louder than words?" |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:49 AM Response to Reply #107 |
118. Your charges that they are a RW group are absolutely *absurd.* |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:30 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Oh, so now I'm a "conspiracy" nut because I ask questions? Talk about "absurd!" |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
104. About CREW. Melanie Sloan, Executive Dir is HARDLY a Right Winger. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #104 |
108. Do you know her personally? Does she still work for Rep. John Conyers? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 12:11 PM Response to Reply #108 |
119. Do YOU know her personally??? |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 09:55 PM Response to Reply #119 |
124. NO, I don't know her personally, but I'm not the one who's defending her.... |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 04:20 AM Response to Reply #124 |
126. The facts are suddenly a waste of time? You made wild, dismissive claims. |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Thank you, thank you... |
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Fluffdaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:05 AM Response to Original message |
111. We need to past on JM for....MAJORITY LEADER |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:16 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Please read...Murtha is in the clear... |
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slaveplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:26 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. Is there a quote for this? |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
114. My opinion is pick a no-name |
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MarkTwain (902 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 10:40 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. Exactly .... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 11:13 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. This issue never was an issue and is deader than Mark Twain |
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Strawman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 12:50 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. I don't like Hoyer in that spot either. He's her rival |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 06:55 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. It's OVER! It was all a LIE spread by Swift Boaters |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-16-06 11:27 AM Response to Reply #114 |
130. May I recommend Congresswoman Susan Davis? (CA-53) |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-15-06 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
123. It is over, it's a bunch of sh*t similar from the swiftboaters... |
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