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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:00 AM
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Cheney assures early Iraq pullout won't be allowed
Source: AFP



Cheney assures early Iraq pullout won't be allowed

by Maxim Kniazkov Sun Mar 25, 4:36 AM ET

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US Vice President Dick Cheney has assured political allies that an early withdrawal of US forces from Iraq would not be allowed, despite efforts by Congress to impose a deadline on US combat operations there.

The comments late Saturday followed a historic vote Friday in the House of Representatives, which called for a pullout of US combat troops from Iraq by August 31, 2008 -- regardless of whether Iraqi security forces are ready to take over from them.

President George W. Bush has vowed to veto the measure. But the threat has called into question the future of a 124-billion-dollar emergency funding bill, to which it is attached.

Lacking line-item veto power, Bush can reject bills only in their entirety.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070325/pl_afp/usiraqpolitics_070325082659;_ylt=AokfY4YSZcqPfFo59tE3Xq3MWM0F
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:03 AM
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1. Allowed by whom? Cheney should go "cheney" himself nm
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:04 AM
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2. Call me Ishmael....
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oneinok Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 09:01 AM
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41. How can anyone take Cheney seriously?
How can anyone take Cheney seriously?

He makes money off the war, and he doesn't know the difference between friend and bird. Plus, when he had the chance to fight during Vietnam, he decided to stay home and make money. I guess that's what real patriotism is, telling others to go to war while you make money.

Maybe the two million people who are about to lose their houses to foreclosure during this booming economy can go in the military since they have no where to live.

It makes me sick that a guy who wouldn't serve in the military tells other people that they don't support the military. The rich, like Cheney, don't care about the military; they care about money. It's always money.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:05 AM
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3. After the last 5yrs. why wouldn't him and Shrub think they were ,Elvis?
Absolutely no resistance of any tangible form will cause megalomaniac ideation.
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:10 AM
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4. The Emperor has spoken. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:10 AM
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5. Quoting extensively from Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, the vice

.He did not explain what steps the administration could take if the supplemental bill dies in partisan bickering. But he expressed confidence in the final outcome, stating "We will complete the mission, and we will prevail."

Quoting extensively from Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, the vice president reiterated his conviction that an US early withdrawal from Iraq would be "a complete validation of the Al-Qaeda strategy."

And he painted a dire picture of the Muslim world descending into chaos and tyranny, if radical Islamists were allowed to prevail.

"Having tasted victory in Iraq, jihadists would look for new missions," he predicted. "Many would head for Afghanistan and fight alongside the Taliban. Others would set out for capitals across the Middle East, spreading more sorrow and discord as they eliminate dissenters and work to undermine moderate governments."
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:15 AM
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7. sad most politicians quote from Washington, Lincoln, MLK, Kennedy, Eisenhower, etc
he quotes from OBL. :puke:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:31 AM
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9. "new wrinkle on Sunday" The fear, Brzezinski argued, was also being exploited by so-called "terror



.......The speech (by Cheney) marked a ratcheting up of a tense standoff between the White House and Democratic-controlled Congress, which is under heavy pressure from constituents to find a way to wrap up the war that most Americans now believe was a mistake.

But the Democrats made clear they have no intention of backing down. In a radio address Saturday, Representative Paul Hodes (news, bio, voting record) said the era of blank checks issued by Congress to the president was over and urged Bush to respond "by listening to the American people."

The angry debate added a new wrinkle Sunday, when a leading US foreign policy expert, former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski, delivered a stinging rebuke to the whole concept of the war on terror, arguing it was promoting "a culture of fear" that was being exploited for political and financial gain.

"The sense of a pervasive but otherwise imprecise danger was thus channeled in a politically expedient direction by the mobilizing appeal of being 'at war'," he wrote in The Washington Post.

The fear, Brzezinski argued, was also being exploited by so-called "terror entrepreneurs."
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:34 PM
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16. Gee, Dick, then maybe you shouldn't have invaded in the first place
Or maybe you should have lied and linked Iraq and OBL

Or maybe you should have had a plan

Or maybe you should have had more troops

Or maybe you chould have had competent leadership instead of idealogues

Or maybe all of the above, what say?
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:50 AM
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39. "Having tasted victory in Iraq, JIHADISTS would look for new missions." WTF?
Jihadists??? I thought WE were winning in Iraq. Or, more recently, as President Chucklenuts claimed, we COULD win.

I know we're all losing, but who the Hell is winning, Dick? And could you guys keep your stories straight for more than 72 hours?

mikey_the_rat
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Vexatious Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:12 AM
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6. Of course he won't allow it.
This has been his project from the get-go. He's been the decider all along. Our functionally retarded circus chimp in the White House couldn't cook this disaster up in a million years--he just signed at the bottom line grinning like a feeble minded hillbilly about being a war president and one upping Daddy.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:24 AM
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8. Deferrment Dick to America;
"Go cheney yourselves."
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:35 AM
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10. What're ya gonna do, Dick? Shoot us in the face if we don't
do what you decree? There's a lot more of us than there is of you.

Can you say "Nuremberg"?

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smaug Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:51 AM
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12. Exactly. We need our own Nuremberg trials
to solve the entire criminal enterprise that the reTHUGlic party has devolved into. Mandatory life imprisonment in Gitmo, subjected to the same 'humane' treatment that the victims of the Afghan warlords (were the Busheviks stupid enough to think that bounties would help Afghan war lords round up truly dangerous Talibs? - Jeez!) received. Perhaps a life sentence in a chain link cage would be too good for the reTHUGlics, but I don't want to put 'em to death - make them suffer in 8 x 10 cages, with Internet cameras showing the 'roughhousing' they deserve.

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 11:45 AM
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11. Doesn't he have some blood clots to tend to?
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Seldona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:04 PM
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13. Like Murtha said.
Why would I believe a word this man has to say? This administration wasn't kidding when they speak of creating their own reality, and they will stick to that version no matter what.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 04:44 PM
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30. Amen to that! nt
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:17 PM
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14. Yeah, Halliburton hasn't raped the entire nation yet.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:18 PM
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15. Who cares what that cowardly blowhard has to say?



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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:37 PM
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17. I know what you mean, but I love commenting on it
:hi:

Bastard could finance the war with his blind trust from Halliburton stock. :puke:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:40 PM
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18. I commented too :o)
Edited on Sun Mar-25-07 12:41 PM by Solly Mack
Just expressing my frustration with the idea that Cheney is someone to be alarmed about...the media treats Cheney like EF Hutton... when he talks, everyone listens...well piffle on that

Yeah, he's a thug... just like all the rest

but he can be brought down
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:54 PM
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21. you have more reason than me to be frustrated
:hug:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:07 PM
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24. The Press fosters the idea that there is something mysterious about Cheney
when all he is a bully - no different than Bush in that regard and like Bush, Cheney doesn't feel he has to answer for his actions either.


Cheney is missing so often because he is off doing business deals using his office to accomplish them
and I wouldn't doubt that Cheney himself has visited the secret prisons - gleefully telling himself it's a good thing.

:hug:



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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 04:48 PM
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31. All the WH and Cabinet repugs are not Republicans at all...
they are criminals! They really only care about themselves. Under the guise of Republicans, they thugs have raped, pillaged and pilfered our country.

Get a brain, moran neo-cons. They couldn't care less about you.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 05:03 PM
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33. Uh...come again?
Who said they did care?

Who said they weren't neo-cons?

Who said they weren't criminals?



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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 07:45 AM
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38. I mean the they are criminals and I believe they don't even
care about conservatism or neo-conservatttsism. They are not Dwight Eisenhower!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:40 PM
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19. and who the hell is cheney? he is the fing VP!! fuck him!
just who the hell does he think he is?? is his kid over there?? fuck no!!

Cheney is not the American people..he is but one..

I believe the American people have a majority say over where we want our kids and where and when we want them home!!

fuck dick head cheney and his evil empire!!

fuck him all to hell..and may he rot in a very hot hell one day!!

dick the prick is not our emperror!! he is a corrupt megolmaniac..and he should rot in a prison for the remainder of his lifetime for the crimes he has committed against this republic!

fly
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:48 PM
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20. Is the Dick of Death "assuring"
us like he "assured" us that the Iraqis would be throwing Flowers at the Soldiers' FEET?

dick words are like so much helium in the wind.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 12:56 PM
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22. Hey war profiteer! Guess what? We're going to start reminding the American People that you're
making MILLIONS of dollars of pure profit off this war! Think about that, deadeye dick!
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:00 PM
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23. not till his futures investments mature.. at 200$ a barrel
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:10 PM
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25. Five Deferment Cheney and what army?
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Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:13 PM
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26. "Allowed"????? Go hunting with yourself asswipe n/t
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:53 PM
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27. Too damn bad his dad didn't pull out early
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 01:56 PM
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28. Fortunately, the way the Constitution is written
his permission is not required. It's not up to him. It's up to Congress and We the People. He can go fuck himself now.
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 03:36 PM
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29. Say good night dick.
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 04:53 PM
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32. So said the Penguin
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 08:43 PM
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34. I have no problem if he vetos his war funding.
Edited on Sun Mar-25-07 08:45 PM by w4rma
Neither do I have a problem if Senate Republicans obstruct this failed war's funding.
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Aviation Pro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 09:28 PM
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35. Someone should have pulled out of his momma....
...about 65 years ago and kept that waste of zygote from developing.
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MGD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 10:09 PM
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36. I forsee another signing statement whereby El Presidente declares his intention not to enforce
that which he dislikes. Somebody remind me, why are these assholes not impeached?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-25-07 10:53 PM
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37. Just who is he "assuring"?
It ain't the 70% of the American people.

And thank God for the lack of line-item veto.

Now, Chimpolini is gonna have to explain to Congressmen why their pork barreling will not get funded.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 08:54 AM
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40. So==18 months from now is 'early" !!
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-26-07 11:47 AM
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42. Um... POLITICAL Allies?
Let's be real here. BUSINESS allies, making a killing on this d*mned war... and ensuring American dependence on oil.
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