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Mon Jul-21-08 09:39 AM
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Ever wish you lived in a time when things didn't change much? |
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I mean, when technological and societal changes were very slow. When you could reasonably expect that your life would be similar to your parents' and their parents, etc.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:42 AM
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My wife and I are even considering a move to someplace that's pretty remote. Maybe a small Mexican village in the mountains hundreds of miles away from a city. No telephone or TV reception, etc.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:45 AM
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3. Sometimes I think about retiring to a Mexican village too. nt |
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:52 AM
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6. But not the "Gringo Towns" |
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I hear those places really suck and are full of assholes who moved to Mexico and refuse to learn the language. Gated communities totally shut off and isolated from the country and the native people except for the maids and maintenance people. I don't even see the point of a person moving to Mexico unless they want to live like people in Mexico.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:54 AM
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7. That's what I was thinking of, to live among the natives. |
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I don't anticipate having the do-re-mi to live in a gated community and all that, even though I know it doesn't cost as much as it does in the USA.
I don't like that kind of assholes either. :hi:
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:45 AM
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As a science orientered person..I LOVE learning about new innovations whatever the field...One of the things I really like about my current job is its kind of on the cutting edge of new technology!
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:49 AM
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4. Those days were labor intensive,unless you were wealthy. |
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Constant hard physical labor is not pleasant. Plus I like modern conveniences like running water.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:51 AM
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My mom grew up in the South at a time when air conditioning was a luxury afforded only by the well to do. Life in Alabama without climate control? Oh, hell no. It's sticky enough as it is.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:55 AM
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Talk to a few wise old timers who will tell you that things weren't as bad as we think back in the days it wasn't around. My wife's grandmother's family grew up as farmers during the great depression and never knew they were poor and had it so bad until someone told them so.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:59 AM
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10. True... it's all in what you're used to |
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Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 10:04 AM by southpaw
If I had never experienced modern conveniences, how could I possibly miss them?
I consider how comfy life in the early 2000's is and wonder, how will our level of creature comfort look to people 100 years in the future.
Of course, what with global climate change and all, they may well marvel at the idea of summer temperatures under 110 F.
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Mon Jul-21-08 10:09 AM
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11. It's really scary in a way |
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Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 10:11 AM by DaveTheWave
It would be a total disaster as it is sometimes when a natural disaster occurs. As human beings whose species has survived hundreds of thousands of years we're probably at our most vulnerable right now than ever before. It's pure speculation but if a major catastrophic event were to knock out the entire US power grid long term, people by the tens of thousands would parish and die. That is not a joke. Less than 50% of Americans could live and survive off the grid. That's not counting the people on life support systems, just ordinary people who've had supermarkets and refrigerators all their lives and million of families and generations with air conditioners have probably made most of our species evolve (or devolve?) into not handling and adapting to climate changes as good as we used to.
Something to think about.
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Mon Jul-21-08 09:57 AM
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9. I grew up in the South when AC was only in drug stores and movie theaters. |
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I was thinking mostly of medieval Europe. Oh, I know there were lots of disadvantage, no dentists, no novocaine, etc., no AC/central heating, etc.
However, there is something comforting about knowing exactly what is expected of you, exactly what your role in life is. (which of course also has a downside, if you don't like the role you're stuck with.)
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Mon Jul-21-08 10:17 AM
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12. I would have been right at home back in about 1885. I make my own soap and candles. Love all types |
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of needlework. Can preserve food and cook from the woods and fields. I even like kerosene lights. I live in a house built in 1858 and there are times when I wish I could pull off the stunt Christopher Reeve did in "Somewhere in Time".
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Mon Jul-21-08 11:51 AM
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things change...
that's a fact which i accept and embrace...
it seems to me anti-evolutionary to be against change (also it seems to me to be un-reasonable to attempt to go against change as well as seemingly impossible so i'd also say any attempt would be irrational)...
- i do however believe that being careful is a wise thing (which can involve going forward more slowly sometimes)...
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Mon Jul-21-08 12:20 PM
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14. Things change, of course. But they change now much more rapidly than through most of human history. |
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And the pace of change seems to accelerate more and more.
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Mon Jul-21-08 01:35 PM
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15. yeah there's a word for that or some term i was trying to remember it the other day... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 01:40 PM by Ysabel
- but i haven't remembered it yet...
:)
p.s. it's a phenomena (something to do with speeding ever faster toward a certain point)...
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Mon Jul-21-08 01:49 PM
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16. What does that mean for climate change? |
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Is civilization's attempt to go against it unreasonable and irrational?
"- i do however believe that being careful is a wise thing (which can involve going forward more slowly sometimes)..."
Since evolution has no direction, how do you know which way is forward?
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Mon Jul-21-08 02:14 PM
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19. hmm well i suppose i assume that it's going forward but... |
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Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 02:19 PM by Ysabel
i could be wrong tho (perhaps direction is just a concept or a tool that humans have come up with in order to help them make some sort of sense of things / to organize their own minds and perhaps does not exist otherwise outside of the mind i don't really know)...
- as for the other question since we humans seem (to me) to have created much of the problems concerning climate change and global warming perhaps our current situation is a result of our attempts to go against the climate / the earth in the past (and our continuing to do so) however again i certainly don't entirely know and i am wrong about many things...
edited: to add one word...
- and also to add that i think it's important that we try to fix the problems we have caused for the planet i think that our lives depend upon it...
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Mon Jul-21-08 02:38 PM
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21. p.p.s. (i'm full of p.s.)... |
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- in the past (and still) humans have been unreasonable irrational as well as irresponsible it is important imo that we change that we stop acting so self-destructively it seems to me we are killing ourselves which is probably partly the result of the effects of death cult religious fantasy...
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Mon Jul-21-08 01:52 PM
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If I hadn't had kids I might be living in a hut far removed from everyone else already.
Wait, that's being a hermit, not living when things didn't change so much.
Nevermind.
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Mon Jul-21-08 01:53 PM
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18. Absolutely not. I can't live without my iPod. And before that, I couldn't live without Internet.... |
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and before that, a PC. And before that... etc., etc.
I love technology. The more the better.
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Mon Jul-21-08 02:33 PM
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Change is proof of the fourth dimension
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