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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:11 PM Original message |
A VERY serious question about pro-life/pro choice |
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rep the dems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
1. The last group is ok with me. |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can respect anyone who isn't anti-choice. n/t |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. I don't think labels "work" here. |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
20. That's exactly the conclusion I came to |
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suigeneris (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. I think it's rarely pro-life, |
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QShok (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Really? |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 04:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
60. No, silly. |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. As long as their choice is to be "pro-life" for THEMSELVES, then I'm fine with |
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StoryTeller (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. An honest answer... |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. This is exactly the way I think--maybe most everyone else, too. nt |
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StoryTeller (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:21 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Really? That's a relief! |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 07:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
48. I'm in a conservative area, too, as are many in smaller towns. |
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Demi_Babe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:43 AM Response to Reply #5 |
18. loved your post |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 01:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. An excellent, thoughtful post. Thank you. |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. I think yours is a far better statement of the real "pro-life" position... |
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StoryTeller (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Thank you! And... |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 05:11 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. You're right, of course... |
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StoryTeller (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 05:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
68. You're right, too. |
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Bullshot (807 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. Around here the so-called "pro-lifers" use the label for purely political reasons. |
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sutz12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Story Teller..that is the most intelligent and compassionate |
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StoryTeller (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 04:50 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. Thank you. :-) (nt) |
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dubykc (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. The last group I happen to be fine with, the rest of the groups... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 04:07 AM Response to Reply #6 |
61. Anti-choice is most correct. (no text) |
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brer cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-09-06 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. There are also shades of red or whatever with some pro-choice folks. |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
8. Here's a compromise: |
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brer cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Define "unwanted". My grands (now 2) were not planned... |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 06:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
47. Don't read me wrong, I was just posing a compromise |
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brer cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Sorry, I was not making a personal attack on you. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
11. abortion is murder. |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:28 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. so is WAR. |
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hijinx87 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:38 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. no, no, no |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 04:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. It is still murder |
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QShok (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. No. Homicide does not always equal murder. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 03:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
40. Even before the embryo develops a central nervous system? |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
45. I'd like to thank you for ........ |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 05:39 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Aw, come on, we like to play with them |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
14. stay the hell OUT of other people's uteruses |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
29. Yep. Nobody has any right to tell anybody else what they |
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liberal43110 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
15. Pro-Choice Shades of Gray |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 05:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
43. Another one of those is informed consent. |
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liberal43110 (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #43 |
58. Exactly! |
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Extend a Hand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. The term 'pro-life' is a misnomer |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
19. Keep Government OUT! |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 04:36 AM Response to Original message |
24. Everybody's "pro life." -- The Clear Difference is between ... |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
26. A lot of my family is pro-life, but... |
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demokatgurrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
27. I see it is pro-choice, anti-choice. Other issues of |
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Totally Committed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:24 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Absolutely! |
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
30. Regarding politicos: they can champion "no abortion" publicly |
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Lindacooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
31. There isn't anyone who is pro-abortion. |
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riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
32. The problem is they don't "respect" my rights |
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QShok (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Pro-lifer: "Blastocyst have rights too!" |
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Pragmatic Pilgrim (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
33. A vital thread! Candid, calm, thoughtful, understanding! K&R |
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Pragmatic Pilgrim (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. This key "wedge issue" deserves a kick. Done! |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. and I loved the way you described... |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
35. The opposite of pro-choice is not pro-life |
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Indiana_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 07:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. I'd like to use that term but often times when I try to use that word, |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. Then the opposite of pro-life is anti-life, isn't it? |
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Pragmatic Pilgrim (116 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:39 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Those terms resulted from a "framing" race. |
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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
36. Killing doctors or clinic escorts.... |
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xxqqqzme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
51. as far as I'm concerned there are only 2 groups - |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. I'm not sure you have any respect for people who are pro-life, only |
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darkism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-10-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
55. If they're in the last group AND they have a vagina... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
59. Yes, the radical righteous wing is pure selfishness |
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wildeyed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 09:26 AM Response to Original message |
62. Being against abortion is a morally defensible position. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
63. Just my 2 cents |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 01:18 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Thanks for a thoughtful and obviously heartfelt reply |
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NMDemDist2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
64. interesting thread H2S, thanks to all who participated in it. What I know |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
66. I can respect a person's view as long as they don't impose it on |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-11-06 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
69. I can embrace anyone whose convictions lead them... |
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