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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:12 PM Original message |
Krugman: Why the public option matters (calls out Ezra Klein) |
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Justitia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you for this great article. Krugman finally gets it on the "mandate" part. |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Alelujuah! |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. He's right on point three, but Klein is right on costs |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. "The public option won't make that much of a difference in cost." BS |
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DrToast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Speaking of disingenous |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. "either way, $150 billion is over 10 years, or $15 billion per year... little more than 1/2%" Hmmm |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Thats peanuts |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree with Ezra Klein that a public option passed this year will... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. "probably be too weak " is a bullshit speculative argument. n/t |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The House bill limits... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Nonsense. What does that have to do with the fact that it is still the primary cost-saving measure? |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. that quote may refer to big employers with special permission... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Special permission? n/t |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. "probably too weak"...well, here's to that |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
13. Why aren't there more people like Krugman |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. How stupid do the bloodsucking insurance corps DINOs |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
17. Nice to see Krugman finally understands why mandate support helped to sink Hillary. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
18. Its nice to be in 100% agreement with Krugman on this one. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. "The Kleins are beginning to sound like tools." |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. Upon further reflection, I'm going to call bullshit on Krugman |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. "if mandates make reform "work", why would we even have to worry about premiums rising " |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 12:07 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Exactly. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-08-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
21. Back in August (ancient history?) Krugman said that the Public Option wasn't crucial... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Yeah, if this was Switzerland |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. I know, I know. Everything looks bad when you remember it... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Krugman was doing analysis, he wasn't selling the Swiss plan. Or did you miss this |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. He was justifying Obama's lack of support for a public option. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. You said: "Krugman said that the Public Option wasn't crucial..." Obama's |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 01:34 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. LOL. Flat denial of of the plain meaning of words is *one* strategy... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-09-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. "Flat denial of of the plain meaning of words is *one* strategy..." Then stop |
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