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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:56 PM Original message |
If Hillary is Pro-War... Why would any of us vote for her ? |
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MercutioATC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. Valid question... |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is beyond me.... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well I voted for Kerry while he was on the war wagon. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:34 PM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Kerry was NEVER pro-war |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Uh - bullshit. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. His position changed as circumstances did |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:14 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Your argument is changing as I lay out the facts. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 06:07 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. beautifully stated. Nice and clear. Great post! |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
4. Too many people who ought to know better |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:03 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. and many have conjured her up to be demon-which she is not. |
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LionInWinter (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. She didn't vote for the bankruptcy bill. |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
56. that's true, but she supported bankruptcy "reform" in the past . . . n/t |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. She voted for it in December 2000. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. She may not be the savior of the Democratic Party. |
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k_jerome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. which hideous bankruptcy bill? nt. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. Hillary DID NOT vote for the bankrupcy bill |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:32 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. Good info. Thanks. |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. That's a damned good question!! ..nt |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
7. Since I don't plan on voting for her.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. And if she's the Democratic nominee are you sitting out |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
69. Absolutely not... |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
9. Here's Hill's stated position - how does one get "pro-war" out of it? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. not sure, but seems to me the label of 'pro-war' gets attached to any |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
46. I think you are correct! :-) |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Didn't she just say recently... that going into Iraq was the right |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
54. I thought the quote was "given what we knew then, going into Iraq was |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
67. the only "statement" that matters was the one that authorized the invasion |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. I will vote for her |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. If she is the Dem nominee... then agreed we have no choice |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
11. Even if you ignore her pro-war stance, why would anyone |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:17 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Why? Because she's a Democrat. |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
37. I don't care if she proves to everyone that she can walk on |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
59. But not a Democrat as in |
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the other one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
12. The GOP LOVES Hillary! |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. yes I agree... Her nomination is our death toll ! |
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Daphne08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Yes, and if the Democrats nominate her, they are fools because |
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Catamount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 06:34 PM Response to Reply #12 |
81. Thats just what they want you to think!.... |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:05 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Don't let them suceed! |
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Catamount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:18 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Sill better than a republican! |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. I disagree. |
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Catamount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 08:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I agree with everything you say...but the truth (sadly) is that we are |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:20 AM Response to Reply #12 |
91. That's because she would make a good Republican president. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. Iraq may be the most important issue, but it's not the only issue |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
15. the democratic party is pro war |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Compare the years under Clinton vs. Bush. We can hope to |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. the next administration will be better |
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AnnInLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. If we vote "one issue" then we don't |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:25 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Maybe I should clarify ... I would not vote for her in the primaries ! |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
48. Not necessarily and I'll tell you why. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Or Jeb Bush. Get ready. They're floating trial balloons now. |
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wvspaz (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
24. If Hillary is the best the Dems have to offer.... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Because that narcissist will only throw the election back to |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. Many people probably won't |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
28. I just don't see what's difficult about this.... |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. of course... I took that as a given... I should have asked |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Yah - given how many DUers say they'll vote against Democrats... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
36. You said it well. |
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meganmonkey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. Because Party comes before Principle! |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
31. I'm not. |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
35. If I wanted to vote for a Republican... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:32 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. You show me a SINGLE Republican Senator with a record |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
38. So far no one has given me a good reason except one person |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:36 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Maybe you should re-state your question, because otherwise |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. The RW and the Corp Media want Hillary Clinton as the |
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Dangerman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
43. Good question. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
45. She is pro-war and I won't vote for her. Same goes for my senator(D). |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. You'd rather a Repub win instead? Interesting. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. No. I'd rather neither win. |
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madmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. I won't vote for her... |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Yeah... He was much too moderate for me.... but he got alot |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. Because you believed the war was a good idea? |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 02:51 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Huh ???? |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Clarify your question. |
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heartofthesiskiyou (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
60. 2008 - it's an issue of us getting on the same sheet of music |
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sadiesworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
61. self-delete |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
62. She voted for the resolution the same as Kerry did and I voted for Kerry |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. that, and his refusal to take a stance against the war during the campaign |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
63. Good question. I won't. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
65. She's not pro-war; she's not anti-war |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
66. I will not support ANY pro-war candidate, regardless of party... |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
68. I won't. ever. not under ANY circumstances, cast a vote for her. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
74. I don't understand why either? Loyalty beyond reason? n/t |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
76. I wrestle with this question all the time. |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
77. The gop wants her to be the nominee. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:49 PM Response to Original message |
78. I would not even vote for her for Senator again. |
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Justpat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
79. I have no intention of voting for her. |
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iconoclastNYC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-16-06 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
83. If Hillary gets the nomination I really hope someone runs 3rd party. |
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Psst_Im_Not_Here (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
87. A Story for you |
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RethugAssKicker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 09:40 AM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Yeah... I agree. We need some new blood out there... OR |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 11:26 AM Response to Reply #87 |
92. Don't like Hil. Indifferent about Kerry. But.... |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
88. Because some of us like her pro-corporate, free trader positions. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-17-06 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
90. I wish Hillary many happy years as a New York Senator n/t |
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