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Tue Jun-19-07 05:39 PM
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If Bloomberg runs for Presdient |
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Isnt that great for the Democrats, because he would split the right vote?
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:40 PM
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1. He could run as a Dem; don't forget that possibility. nt |
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:40 PM
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2. If Hagel runs with him, it is good for the dems. |
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:44 PM
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I don't think Hagel is a good/strong choice.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:06 PM
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10. Why? Because Hagel's about as progressive as, oh, say...Pat Buchanan? |
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Or Rick Santorum? Or Mitch McConnell?
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:07 PM
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And I don't think he's genuine.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:29 PM
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19. I think he's genuine, just too conservative--Bloomberg might want |
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to consider a more moderate running mate.
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:15 AM
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:41 PM
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he could siphon off money that otherwise might have gone to Republicans.
I'm glad he did this, because now he can't latch onto Unity08 and run on their money and organization. I was concerned that that might happen. He'll have to start from scratch.
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:43 PM
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4. He's more of a Democrat than a Republican |
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I think he hurts Guiliani. He probably hurts the Dem otherwise.
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:47 PM
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6. He would be the Nader of 2008. The Democrats would lose. |
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The GOP base Hates him. Fickle Dems would lean to him and extend GOP rule for EIGHT MORE YEARS.
Believe it.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:05 PM
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9. Actually, the way things are going an independent bid could win |
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People underestimate how sick and tired both sides the electorate are with business as usual- and that's not considering what's likely to happen to the economy and the war over the next 16 months.
If we're left with the current slate of candidates- plus a viable 3rd party, anything could happen.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:19 PM
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That's the thing. This year is SO different. ANYTHING could happen.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:11 PM
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12. Bloomberg would take votes away from the Dems |
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He's more liberal than the Republican base, who as onehandle points out, hate him. The question is if he is doing this in order to split the moderate vote so that a Republican can win the Presidency or is he doing this because he is on a ego trip? I vote ego trip. I don't think he cares about the Republican party.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:12 PM
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13. He would do terribly in the south... |
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and I just don't see Dems going for him, maybe some in the Northeast, but not enough to make a huge difference.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:16 PM
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And so do the political pundits. The left and center wing of the democratic party is more loyal than the center of the republican party. What you will get is the effect that happened in 1992 when Perot entered the race. Clinton won because Perot took enough from the GOP to make it impossible for the GOP to get their 33.3%.
Now if it were Gore who were running as an independent, that would hurt the dem candidates and help the GOP.
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Tue Jun-19-07 05:57 PM
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7. IMO, he has a 50/50 chance wining with the right VP. Melinda Gates would |
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:01 PM
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8. I think he would be more like Nader. |
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And that's not good news.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:19 PM
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Because he takes votes away from the GOP, not us. He would be the Nadar of the GOP.
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:23 PM
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17. why would he take votes from the GOP? He's only been a republican for about 18 minutes |
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he's a life long dem who switched to GOP so he could run for office.
But I think dems are pretty loyal. I don't see his positions being far from the Dem positions and hopefully the dems would stick with "our own."
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:39 PM
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20. I see it the opposite way: I see Repukes as disturbingly, goose-steppingly |
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loyal. I see Democrats as free-thinkers who will jump ship for the craziest reasons (many DID vote for GWB, you know!).
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:26 PM
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18. I don't see it that way (nt) |
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Tue Jun-19-07 06:49 PM
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Lets put it this way - I'm a New Yorker and a Dennis K. kind of Democrat. If Bloomberg runs and HRC is the Dem nominee, my vote goes to Bloomberg -- no hesitation Not good for Democrats at all.
Bloomberg is smart, principled, friendly to the environment, gays, the poor, a bold thinker (conditional cash transfers, trans fat, smoking ban, congestion pricing, etc) and, most importantly, has so much money he doesn't have to give a shit what big business thinks.
Hell, Bloomberg might get my vote if Obama is the nominee. Definitely if Dems put up Edwards. If Gore runs, though, sorry Bloomie!
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:19 AM
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23. Even if he won, it would be great for Democrats... |
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assuming they pick up more seats in both houses of Congress, as they are projected to do. He would be an incredibly weak President, having no political base to work with, and holding virtually no veto power.
It would be the opposite of what's happening now, where the Executive Branch is holding the lion's share of the power.
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Wed Jun-20-07 08:24 AM
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24. A Non-Starter...Who The Hell Is Bloomberg??? |
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Sorry...I don't see this guy getting much traction at all...even with all his money.
The "third party" hole is not there for a moderate but for a right winger...a "true believer"...a Gingrich or some other flying monkey who wears his religion on his nose, wants to bomb any and all brown-skinned people and force gays, women, blacks and other minorities into servitude. That doesn't sound like Bloomberg.
He sure isn't bringing anything to the Democrats that isn't already there...other than his money. He's got very little name recognition outside New York and the fact he's switched parties makes him a traitor in my book...I don't care if that was the way he chose to get elected...he cut a deal with the worst regime this country has had to endure.
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