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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:01 PM
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Interesting map of known hate groups.
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/map/hate.jsp

Overall map shows # of hate groups by state, and if you click on a particular state, it details what cities they're in.

I live in Ga. now, and I found it very interesting to see all the different groups & where they are. I guess now I realize why it's so difficult to get any Dems elected in this crazy state!
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:05 PM
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1. California has far more than GA
yet we have no problems electing Democrats. Of course, we aren't still bitter about the "War of Northern Aggression."
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:07 PM
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2. Why am I not surprised that the first post would be an anti-South one?
:shrug:
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:42 PM
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10. How's that gay marriage thing going out there?
Oh, and Arnie vetoed Harvey Milk Day, again.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:51 PM
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13. Since I'm not gay
neither affect me. Your point?
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:59 PM
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15. That's funny, considering the image in your sig line (n/t)
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TornadoTN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:09 PM
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3. Wonderful - 13 groups or more in East Tennessee alone
Such a beautiful area of the country with some of the best people on Earth, and we have these sorry excuses living amongst us.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:14 PM
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4. gah . they love Texas
I feel sick looking at that.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:45 PM
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11. They love California even more
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:25 PM
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23. It's the weather...
Oh, and the beach and easy living beneath the palms...

Before anyone jumps on me for "California-bashing," I grew up there and am (hopefully) heading back in a year or two.

Why, you ask? The weather, the beach and easy living beneath the palms...
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BigBluenoser Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:03 PM
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16. Wow... the two most populous states have the most hate groups...
Bet they have the most burger joints too.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:26 PM
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5. Kentucky
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 12:26 PM by get the red out
We only have 11 hate groups. But we have the joy of a neo-confederate group right here in Lexington. Disgusting, "League of the South" it is called.

I wish people didn't live in such fear. I really believe the direction that many Christian denominations have gone over the past 30 years or so since they started aligning themselves completely with the Republican Party has played a huge part in this disturbing trend of hate-groups. They feed their people fear constantly to keep power over them.

Southerners really aren't all bad. I feel like I am always saying that in defense.
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:41 PM
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9. Since I've moved here, I've seen fewer Confederate flags than back in Indiana
Weird.
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get the red out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:49 PM
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12. Welcome to the state!
If people put up a confederate flag they wouldn't have room for their Wildcat or Cardinal flag. :dilemma:

We have priorities!

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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:26 PM
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6. It says there are no hate groups in Alaska,
but I would say our religious nutters would qualify based on some of the things I heard at the assembly meeting Tuesday night discussing the ordinance granting equal rights for the GLBT community in Anchorage. See my post here in the GLBT forum: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=136924&mesg_id=136924


And, of course, Sarah Palin is a one-woman hate group.
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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:34 PM
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7. Interesting. Meaningless, but interesting. Well, not completely meaningless...
I notice that Nation Of Islam is the only black group listed in the two states I looked at.
The JDL is listed as "general hate" but the Uhuru aren't on there at all.
There are no Mexican nationalist groups listed.
There are no gangs listed.

What makes this meaningless, of course, in a nation of free speech is that it is not a map of crimes, it is a map of associations.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:57 PM
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I wouldn't classify gangs as hate groups in the traditional sense
I've known two over the course my life thru cannabis as well as alot of phonies. But one was a lincoln park blood but their colors are green and another hoover crip when I lived in Sea-Tac. Many of the latter live around Rainier Ave. Though they didn't hate white people in fact, in fact they got along with me as well as other white friends I had. The latter had close friends that were white.

However there are websites that document gangs and where they are but I wouldn't consider them hang groups in the traditional sense as they hate a certain race, religion, etc.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:57 PM
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14. IDuplice
Edited on Thu Jun-11-09 12:59 PM by JonLP24
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:25 PM
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18. That may be right...
... that this is a map of associations.

And, that map points out "groups", which are recognized as racial in nature. But, more meaningful information can be found (I am a member of the Southern Poverty Law Center) of the ongoing hate that feeds what is not meaningless.

Morris Dees and SPLC have interest intelligent briefs, also crimes as part of their "Intelligence Report- Here's a part of a feature, "Hate in the Mainstream" from this month-

Ann Coulter Defends White Supremacist Group

Rabid far-right commentator Ann Coulter is know across America for sliming everyone and everything she disagrees with. Al Gore is a "total fag" and another one-time presidential candidate, John Edwards, is the same. Muslims are "ragheads" and America should "kill their l eaders and convert them to Christianity."
Jews are people who need to be "perfected."

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imdjh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:45 PM
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19. The bottom line isn't the philosophy of an organization it is the threat posed by people
To paraphrase a famous comedian, when I go to the ATM at night, I am not afraid of being jumped by a member of the Nation Of Islam, the JDL, the KKK, or the American Family Association. In the last 20 years, in my area, I cannot recall a single crime committed in the name of those organizations- but the Uhuru is another matter. The Uhuru openly promote racial animosity, crime, and violence. And they aren't even on the list- so I have a hard time seeing the SPLC list as being accurate or comprehensive. Frankly, it seems a bit dated.


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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 12:38 PM
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8. 19 in Arizona, 15 in the Phoenix & Vicinity area. I live in Mesa
There are 2 in Mesa one a neo-nazi and the other a racist skinhead group. There is a neo-nazi group in Apache Junction and a ku-klux-klan in Tempe. This doesn't suprise me despite the diversity, I liked it better living in the Sea-Tac area. Much more diversity and much less racial hatred as I'm aware.

I clicked on the purple star in Phoenix to figure out what it was and it was nation of islam. I guess they are a hate group but they're not as bad as fore-mentioned hate groups. Thanks for the map though many white people here have negative feels towards mexican-americans and black people and they don't belong to hate groups.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:27 PM
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24. That's where Sheriff Joe is, too. n/t
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kimmylavin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 01:21 PM
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17. Ah, California...
What a weird state I live in.

We live in the boonies out near Palmdale/Lancaster.
My husband shaves his head, and he is constantly approached by men who feel he is their brother in white supremacy.
Usually gives them a nice kiss-off...
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 02:48 PM
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20. Athens, GA: birthplace of REM, the B-52s, and - Nuwabians?
That's just totally surreal.
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 03:08 PM
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21. Frightening.
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david13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:06 PM
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22. I don't see it as interesting. They are everywhere. Where's the
news or interesting fact of that. We have known that since the beginning of time.
dc
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-11-09 05:31 PM
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25. Sorry. I did find it interesting that the majority are located along each coast and
few in the middle. I always thought most were from Iowa and the rural areas of the US.
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