Ron Paul is so full of shit you can smell him around the corner.

[WilliamPitt]

FYI.

[MADem]

1. +1 n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Strangely, he seems to have a following here.

I guess he's OK if you like nutjob racist randroids.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. I agree

but what, particularly, prompts repeating this observation? What did I miss?

[EFerrari]

4. I thought that was the litter box. n/t

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. The litter box smells a lot better than Ron Paul

and his evil randian crap.

[Ikonoklast]

18. The litter box stops smelling after you clean it.

You could scrub Ron Paul with a wire brush and kerosene and he's still smell like poo.

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[proud2BlibKansan]

7. He is strongly anti-choice

That's a major deal breaker for me.

[EFerrari]

8. He also wants to end abortion and our public institutions.

When you drown government in a bathtub, that's us in the water.

[WilliamPitt]

9. If he wasn't incredibly full of shit...I'd say "yes."

As he is, however, very much full of shit, I'm going to have to go with "No."

Nothing Ron Paul has to offer is palatable, when taken with the entirety that is Ron Paul.

It's true. Bone up on your coping skills if you don't like this answer.

Cuz it's true.

It really, really is.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. He is also anti-choice; he opposes government regulation

of just about everything; he wants to get rid of Social Security and Medicare and any other form of assistance to individuals; he doesn't like the 1964 Civil Rights Act because the government shouldn't tell businesses whom they should hire.

What's not to like? :puke:

[stevedeshazer]

13. He's sincere about abolishing Social Security and Medicare.

I guess that makes him a modern day abolitionist.

[EFerrari]

14. He's basically an anti-social mofo in anti-war drag.n/t

[stevedeshazer]

17. *splork*

Nailed it.

[Ikonoklast]

19. And Unions. And the EPA. And the SEC. And the FDA.

He's insane, his model is anarchy run by corporations.

[freshstart]

21. You hit the nail on the head...

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=3427&dbname=2001_bound_record

Ron Paul from the congressional record in 2001....
"But today’s economy is unlike anything the world has ever known. The world economy is more integrated than
ever before. Indeed, the effort by international agencies to expand world trade has had results, some good.
Labor costs have been held in check, industrial producers have moved to less regulated low costs, low tax countries
while world mobility has aided these trends with all being helped with advances in computer technology."

Sounds to me like he's happy our jobs moved overseas and our wages have been held down.

[geardaddy]

39. And public schools.

[FarLeftFist]

20. Everyone wants peace, they all talk the talk.

The only anti-war President will be the one who actually ends the wars and fights for peace. Everyone else is just pandering. Obama never said he would end the wars. He specifically said he would escalate.

[Plucketeer]

40. There's a you tube vid

of Obama addressing a town hall gathering prior to his election. In it he says the FIRST THING he'll do as president is end the Iraq war and bring home the troops there. Assures the audience they "can take that to the bank". No wonder we've had so many bank failures of late.

[Turn CO Blue]

24. Even a broken clock is correct twice a day...BUT

So he hates the wars? Good! But that likely stems more from his views on anti-globalism, and isolationism, don't you think?

Good gravy! The rest of his platform is so outrageous, so OPPOSITE of the ideals most of us on THIS site hold dear, I'm not sure why he has so many fans on here...

Disregarding the many allegations of his racism from his early writings and publications and his apparent religious fervor, he still has some policy stances that immediately and utterly disqualify him as a viable candidate for progressives, liberals or Democrats to even consider:

He is so opposed to abortion for reasons of personal belief that he proposes nullifying the Supreme Court (in an effort to rid us of Roe v Wade) - The SCOTUS is one of the checks and balances of our very Constitution. He wants to change the underpinnings of our founding.

He proposes abolishing:

the minimum wage
all income tax
public education (yes, he actually says that all schooling should be "home schooling" by the child's parents

He believes that the Kyoto accords are "bad science"

He is a medical doctor, supposedly a man of science, but does not believe in evolution. He is a creationist (to what extent, unknown)


Okay whatever - there are others better able to argue about this.

I guess what many admire is that he is consistent in his principles and has some...
I am NOT one of his admirers.

[MineralMan]

6. You are correct, sir. And I rarely agree with you.

K&R

[greytdemocrat]

15. Same here. K/R. Paul is a nut.

[Coexist]

10. why yes, he is.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

16. he does not understand about preventive care.

he should not even be a doctor. His son is the same way. They don't believe in spending government money to prevent disease.

He is a liar. He said he never had a patient with a life-threatening pregnancy. That is statistically impossible. You can't tell me he never had a patient with preeclampsia, toxemia, or a tubal pregnancy. Or even a mandatory C-section. If a woman needs a C section and the baby is stuck, and she does not get a C-section, she and the baby will die. That happens often in undeveloped countries and used to happen all the time in the 19th and early 20th centuries.

[Lasher]

22. Congratulations, you almost pulled off a Loco Zolo thread.

Next time try to remember to leave the message field blank.

[WilliamPitt]

32. Next time I'll try to be an obnoxious agitator with no purpose

[Lucian]

23. He wants to get rid of the Dept. of Education and the IRS.

That alone should tell you he's a steaming pile of shit.

[lib2DaBone]

25. OK.. so Ron Paul is a nut job/bad guy. Whatever....

BUT... why can't the Democratic party come out and publish their own opinion on wars, poverty and health care?

So far, Mr. Obama's position has been to surge, surge, surge. More War. More Poverty, more insanity.

Not Obama Bashing... but please, enlighten me as where my facts are wrong?

[razorman]

26. He doesn't stand a chance in hell of getting the GOP nomination.

A Repub acquaintance of mine told me that when he first heard Ron Paul, he thought Paul had some good ideas. Then, he listened more closely and realized that Ron Paul is insane. Apparently, that is a fairly common story among Republicans.

[thelordofhell]

27. Ron Paul does NOT hate wars

He hates government involved wars.

[Graybeard]

28. And his son Randy is a little fart.

All of the stink with none of the substance.

He personifies the "empty suit".

[Historic NY]

29. He is rotting from the inside out.

[City Lights]

30. I thought he was so full of shit his eyes were brown. eom

[Little Star]

31. He is a idiot. k&r

[progressoid]

33. He's so full of shit, you can smell him over dial-up.

[WCGreen]

34. His shtick is getting really old, like a 12 year old who read The Fountainhead....

bleating on about the ideal without ever considering the reality that we live in a collective society and that actions, no matter how personal, have consequences that reach beyond the self...

[KT2000]

35. Crazy old man

Every time I see him I think of the cranky old guy that lives in every neighborhood.
Mean, mean and mean type of guy.
He makes me sick.

[DonCoquixote]

36. hey, do not insult shit

Shit at least can make fertile fields, whereas Ron Paul can turn topsoil into sand.

[joeybee12]

37. True, but he knows an assassination when he sees one...nt

[Kurovski]

38. He's stinking up the place, yep.

K&R

[Plucketeer]

41. I agree - with provisos

I'm of no religious faith whatsoever, but popular lore has it that the last perfect person got nailed to a cross. There's been no other truly perfect sorts since. I sure wouldn't want a Paul in the oval office, but I sure WOULD like to see some electable someone embrace his notion of pulling back ALL of our military presences overseas!

[HughBeaumont]

42. You can sure smell some of their supporters around a corner.

Either too much B.O. or too much Old Spice. Sheesh.

It was said earlier that all of them make the same mistake - they talk to you like you're stupid and have no idea what the real problem is.

[geardaddy]

43. Yup.

[PETRUS]

44. K&R

I haven't been able to see libertarianism as anything other than a naive fantasy. How is it not an invitation for predators to do their worst?